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Nepročitano 13-06-11, 12:18   #11
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Dobila sam odgovor od nadležnih da je napravljen prijevod lisabonskog ugovora i da je u tijeku pravna lektura te da će pročišćeni tekst biti obznanjen javnosti u rujnu. No mislim da su to tek pristupni ugovori a svi dodaci, aneksi i ostalo tek slijedi, no ni iz toga nećemo baš puno naučiti jer ono što je bitno dogovara se iza zatvorenih vrata, daleko od očiju javnosti.

Na prijevodu i čitanju ugovora su radili naši stručnjaci, hrvatski pravnici i sl. koji bi trebali razumjeti tematiku. Štogod to značilo.


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Bez obzira na prijevod, treba dobro baratati sa primarnim i sekundarnim zakonodavstvom EU, jer se u Lisabonskom ugovoru stalno iz članka u članak pozivaju na prije navedeno.
Primarno zakonodavsto EU.
- Ugovor o osnivanju E zajednice za ugljen i čelik 1957. Pariz
- Rimski ugovor iz 1957.
- Jedinstveni E akti 1986. Luxemburg
-Ugovor iz Mastrichta iz 1991.
-Ugovor iz Amsterdama iz 1997.
-Ugovor iz Nice iz 2001.
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- sve Uredbe, Direktive i Odluke objavljene do danas

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Struktura upravlljanja u EU

Dvije najbitnije konponente su Europska komisija i Europski parlament.

U EK su članovi po jedan predstavnik iz svake zemlje članice- oni ne predstavljaju svoje države već promiču interese EU.
EP je zastupničko tijelo u koje se zastupnici biraju prema nacionalnoj kvoti, ali su organizirani prema političkim opredjeljenjima.

Glavne političke stranke su :EPP-ED E narodna ( pučka ) stranka i E demokrati - pridruženi članovi HDZ,HSS, promatrač DCPES Stranka E socijalista - pridruženi član SDPALDE Savez liberala i demokrata EU - pridruženi članovi HSLS,HNS;IDSNakon svega ovog jedno naivno pitanje za Jacu i veselo društvo koji tvrde da će naši predstavnici( 1 u EK i 12 uEP ) dostojno i kvalitetno zastupati Hrvatsku u tim tjelima :Kako će zastupati interese Hrvatske kada naš član u EK mora promicati interese EU, a naši vrli predstavnici će sjediti u društvu svojih stranačkih kolega ( političkih starnaka ) i glasati će prema njihovim odredbama i naputcima.
Koje ( čije )interese je zastupala V Pusić šefica Nacionalnog odbora za praćenje pregovora s EU, koja je od 2006. godine podpredsjednica ALDE ( Saveza liberala i demokrata EU ) !????
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Ups..... Nisu na tekst uticale zle sile već brzopletost. Nadam se da se može koliko toliko pročitati i uloviti smisao.

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Papa Dock ! Što te više ćitam to mi se više sviđaš! Ne mislim fiziććki jer ne znam kako izgledaš, da si nebi neko nekaj pomislil.
Moram reći da mi je jedino žao naše prekrasne zemlje koju su već svu rasprodali nebili se uvukli u š...da dođu do EU para. A nisu ni svjesni da do toga neće moći doć na naćin kako si oni to zamišljaju. Naćin na koji to rade ovdije. Radim kod privatnika od svoje 15 g. i jako dobro znam što je EU.

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Ovo je preozbiljna tema i trudim se ozbiljno i argumentirano pisati o njoj ( uz pokoju šalu, da nebi bilo suhoparno ).

Zahvalio bi prijatelju Vjekoslavu iz Osijeka i gospodinu Marijanu Bošnjaku ( autoru knjige " EU? -Ne Hvala ! ) koji su mi pomogli da uočim mnoge zamke ulaska Lijepe naše u EU i shvatim tko nas i na koji način želi prodati za šaku srebrnjaka.
Istinom i argumentiranom raspravom možemo doprijeti do ljudi da ih upozorimo na opasnost koja nam prijeti.
Žalosno da nam je ovakav način ( internet- forum ) jedina mogučnost izražavanja mišljenja, jer su svi mediji blokirani za euroskeptike i preplavljeni hvalospjevima,te poltronima koji prikazuju EU kao mjesto gdje doslovno teče med i mlijeko.
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"Zabrana rasta loze i maslina je bio jedini način da se ne sruši 'temeljnI zadatak' Europske unije koji je 'slobodno kretanje proizvoda, usluga, kapitala i radnika'. Ako Hrvati nastave povećavati uzgoj loze i maslina, EU neće moći poricati svoj 'temeljni zadatak'. Pa su pronašli svoj put u ovoj temi - u ime slobodne trgovine, 'ubijmo' konkurenciju!", pišu iz Instituta.

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- Vijeće EU
- Europsko vijeće
- Vijeće Europe

Vijeće EU ( Vijeće ministara, Vijeće ) sastoji se od 9 vijeća ( poljop. ribarstvo,okoliš......) ima Predsjedništvo, odbore stalnih predstavnika i Glavno tajništvo.
Europsko vijeće - sastoji se od čelnika država ili vlada članica, oni donose opće političke smjernice ( bez obzira što to značilo ).
Vijeće E je nevladina organizacija koja se brine o zaštiti ljudskih prava.

Još malo o E Komisiji - svaki povjerenik bira svoj osobni kabinet ( 6 savjetnika ) organizirani su u jedinice Opće uprave , koja je podjeljena na Uprave koje vode direktori, a Uprave su podjeljene na Odjele koje vode načelnici. Tu je naravno i administrativni dio - Glavno tajništvo i Pravna služba.
Treba spomenuti i Agencije EU-a ( 17 agencija ), Odbore regija podjeljene na Komisije ( 6 komisija ).

Da vas ne preplašim previše ima toga još, ali za večeras dosta.
Molim pučanstvo da gore navedeno pročita i zapamti, jer će vas gore navedeni predstavljati i bilo bi dobro da znate kome treba pisati ako će vam vaša prava biti povređena.

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Evo ljudi, našao sam link sa listom servisa gdje možete skinuti lisabonski ugovor preveden na hrvatski jezik

Molim što više ljudi da ga skine na svoje računalo da se nebi "desilo da link crkne"

Glavni redaktor hrvatskoga prijevoda: Davorin Rudolf
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Koliko je meni poznato g.Davorin Rudolf je prevodio Ustav EU i bio je štampan u stotinjak primjeraka ( mislim da je to bilo u Splitu ) te se razlikuje od Lisabonskog ugovora u redosljedu, a neki članci nisu identični. Mada je sličnost velika ( više od 90%) između tih dokumenata, treba imati original Lisabonskog da bi se moglo uspoređivati, te kvalitetno pratiti i čitati to štivo.
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