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Nepročitano 10-01-12, 09:56   #1
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Zadani Europska unija? NE hvala

pa,evo kad nam se gura onaj prokleti referendum za nekoliko dana pod nos neka bude i na ovom forumu neka tema o tome,a i za dane u buducnosti jer ko zna sto nas "lijepo" ceka krajem ovog mjeseca.

pocet cu sa dijelom jednog teksta koji mozete u cijelosti procitati na linku koji cu staviti,a zamolio bi i druge da pridodaju sve sto bi moglo koristit ljudima da uvide da je za sve najbolje da se europska unija raspadne zajedno sa svim sto je dosad napravila i da se nitko zdravog razuma nebi trebao gurati,moliti i ljubiti "gu...." da ga se tamo prihvati.

zelim argumente PROTIV i svu ljagu koja postoji o tome,oni za to me ne interesiraju jer ih vec ima i previse i svi su cista glupost sto se mene tice,a nadam se za i one koji ce ovdje nesto pridonijeti.

na kraju,nadam se da cete izaci na referendum,i zaokruziti..NE!

i pobogu ako ste neodlucni ili ne znate sto bi ili kazete da necete izaci
pa dajte odite i zaokruzite NE i dajte si vremena da se odlucite i sve proucite,ovo nije nesto u sto se treba srljati.

zivoti vam doslovno o tome ovise pa tako i zivoti drugih,ne mogu vjerovati da vas nije briga tko ce odlucivati umjesto vas.

hvala lijepo i sretno vam bilo
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Kako je moguće da toliki broj ljudi i dan danas nakon završenih i zaključenih pregovora nemaju uvid u to što su to naši političari pregovarali s Europskom unijom? Kako je moguće da postoji veliki broj onih koji su´neodlučni´, a pogotovo onih koji smatraju da je EU nešto dobro?



Ovaj tekst je napisan kombinacijom tekstova, kolumni, podataka iz knjiga te video zapisa ljudi koji spadaju među one stranački ne opredijeljene, poput uglednog politologa, filozofa, sociologa i ekonomskog analitičara Slavka Kulića, zatim Davora Pavune, izumitelja i fizičara, te dr.Marijana Bošnjaka, autora knjige ´EU – NE HVALA!´. postoje ljudi koji su, za razliku od naših političara, duboko analizirali lisabonski sporazum i EU odredbe što čak nisu učinili ni hrvatski političari. U prilogu posta se nalaze svi izvori.

Da bi shvatili kako smo dovedeni u ovu situaciju, znajte da je jedan od osnovnih problema, što možemo ponajprije zahvaliti političkoj eliti, ali i narodu koji ju je izabrao, to što smo mi kao narod potpuno ne informirani i ne pripremljeni za uključivanje u jedan potpuno drugačiji oblik civilizacijskog ustroja.

Dakle, prije 20 godina, točnije 1991. godine, izašli smo iz jednog oblika federalne diktature koja je imala svoje središte u Beogradu. Nakon osamostaljenja, uslijedilo je čekanje, a uzlazak naroda se nije dogodio. Sistem iz kojega smo tada neposredno izašli, bazirao se na radničko klasnom i u takvom sistemu je rad bio kriterij raspodjele dohodaka. Sistem u kojega nas je ugurala novonastala politička oligarhija, koja je u biti ista komunistička partija samo što ju predstavljaju nove generacije, je vlasničko klasni poredak kojemu temelj nije proizvodnja već preprodaja te nasilna preraspodjela dobara. U takvom uređenju, zemlja ne služi za proizvodnju već za preprodavanje.

Takav novi civilizacijski ustroj iliti ekonomija geografije, je sastavni dio politike EU i ono nije greška i sistem u raspadu, već čvrsto utemeljena i isplanirana doktrina – u takvom sistemu ne postoji slučajnost. To je odlika novog svijeta, kojega oslikava projekt Europske Unije. Kada bi to ljudi barem djelom shvatili, glasali bi jasno protiv i ne bi bilo čak niti onih u nedoumici. Dakle, takav ustroj je baziran na principu opstojanja jačeg, iliti novog civilizacijskog ustroja u kojemu će kolonijalisti, bogati vlasnici imati prednost, te kao vlasnici i preprodavači sadržaja određivati će stvarnost u kojoj mi živimo. To je problem razumijevanja ne samo takvog sistema, već i samih sebe. Taj dio istine nije objasnio ni znanstveni, ni politički ni vjerski determinizam.

Da bi bilo koji narod i bilo koja država opstala u takvoj sredini, potrebno je postepeno osvješćivati narod, i pomoći mu u ostvarivanju društvenog, ekonomskog i trgovačkog uzdizanja kako bi spremni dočekali novu geografsku ekonomiju. To su učinili narodi Austrije, Njemačke, Švicarske, itd. mi smo imali 20 godina dovoljno vremena da učinimo tu stvar. Imali smo i sredstva jer je ova zemlja po prirodnim resursima među najbogatijima na ovom kontinentu. No, umjesto da je naš narod informiran u tom smjeru i navikavan na suživot s drugima, on je nasuprot tome, razvlašten, razoružan, osvojen, namjerno i ciljano da u određenom trenutku isti ne bi mogao proturječiti zahtjevima političke oligarhije, jer bi bio suviše emocionalno, duhovno i intelektualno slab, što mi u suštini jesmo.
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Narod, generalno, nije u stanju da razumije sebe, a kamoli okolnosti u koje ga se uvodi u takvu pravnu stečevinu. Čak je vlast organizirala i Papin dolazak u ne tako´slučajno´ pravo vrijeme jer su znali da upravo vjerski determinizam može ostvariti pritisak na ´80% vjernika´ jer nisu u stanju saznati osnovna saznanja, te se na ovaj način nastojalo kompenzirati neznanje o tome što nas čeka u EU s vjerom u ono što bi nas trebalo čekati. A znanje se ne može nikako kompenzirati, posebice ne s ovakvim oblikom sakralne manipulacije.

Problem nije čak u nepismenima, nego u onima koji misle da su pismeni i na sav glas pjevaju hvalospjeve o EU, te u onima koji nude budućnost za narod bez da mu daju informacije o tome što ga čeka.

Nitko nije niti riječi napisao ništa, niti se govorilo o socijalno psihološkim principima koje je potrebno poznavati da bi znali što čeka jedan narod na ulasku u federaciju u kojoj će biti podređen. Bitno je da svakodnevno gledamo idiotske filmiće o hvalospjevima EU u kojima neki potplaćeni malograđani postavljaju na pitanja o ˝bitnim˝ problemima na što dobivaju nevažeće, neukusne i kriminalno površne odgovore i to na nacionalnoj televiziji. Sociološki i psihološki aspekt nije obrađen iz razloga jer se, od naroda izabrana, politička elita opredijelila za ovakav pristup problemu Europske unije podredivši ga funkcionalnim direktivama, a ne sociološkim. Iz razloga jer se upravo funkcionalne direktive temelje na europskim direktivama, a europske direktive su ultimativan odnos. Narode ove zemlje, suočite se s činjenicom; institucije pregovora nikada nije niti bilo! Jer EU direktive ne traže pregovarače već izvođače.

Da bi narod bio tako dobro istreniran ne proturječiti zahtjevima političke elite, te voljno pristajati na sve što im se kaže, za to je bilo potrebno odraditi 20 godina sustavnog pranja mozga putem medija, politike i obrazovanja dok je istovremeno ista komunistička partija pljačkala sve resurse do kojih je mogla doći. Postoje ljudi koji neće shvatiti o čemu se tu govori, no i to je posljedica upravo političkog determinizma koji vlada na ovim prostorima zadnjih 20 godina.

Od početka nam je ciljano podmetnut sistem varanja a ne stvaranja. To je politika koju je sam započeo Franjo Tuđman i koju su naslijedili svi njegovi drugari. Takvi državni vođe su trebali biti pošteni ljudi i pomoći narodu da postavi društvo bruto proizvoda na stvaranje novih vrijednosti u tehnološkoj orijentaciji, umjesto na političkom determinizmu – nasilnoj preraspodjeli onog što smo imali zbog interesa stranog kapitala, - refeudalizacija poljoprivrede.

No, ukoliko se s ovakvim sustavom narod ne slaže, glasat će protiv EU. Ako budu glasali da, značit će da svojevoljno pristaje na ´totalnu rasprodaju´, refeudalizaciju i odricanje vlastite kulture i integriteta. Glasajući ZA, narod se svojevoljno predaje u ruke europskoj zajednici moćnika i prepuštamo sve neoliberalnoj doktrini nasilne preraspodjele svega – ne znanjem. Žalosno je što ljudi ne shvaćaju goruću činjenicu koja funkcionira po najprirodnijim zakonitostima; Ljudsko dostojanstvo i prostor se ne prodaju, ono se nasljeđuje i ostavlja nasljednim generacijama. Sve suprotno je kriminalizacija stvarnosti. To je postala tolika nepoznanica zbog globalnog zastranjenja da to ne shvaćaju čak niti pravne institucije....


NASTAVAK i puni tekst ovdje http://www.4dportal.com/dnevne-vijesti/politika/2323-europska-unija-sto-su-nam-to-politicari-presutjeli?lang=hr


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ovo glasanje na referendumu ce biti prvi put u zivotu da glasam.. i naravno da ce to biti debelo i masno


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ja ću ponovit--nemam vremena ništa proučavat oko ulaska u EU, ali sigurno glasam protiv.


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i naravno,ne idem nikud bez svojih najdrazih videica..

ne znam da li ovoga gospodina samo netko placa da ih sve fino "popljuje" i nopravi show ili ne.. i da li uopce to urodi plodom na kraju ali kako god bilo njegove rijeci su cini mi se najblize istini.
a ove ostale lopove i varalice kako se samo smiulje i nedodirljivo sjede kao i god nas u saboru ne mogu probavit.

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