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Nepročitano 05-09-12, 14:50   #11
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Mislim da je država ipak veći pljačkaš od banaka: http://danas.net.hr/novac/splicanin-...drzava-peljesi

Samo da izdvojim:
a) prosječan radni čovjek daje oko 50% plaće države na ime svih poreza na plaću, te na sve ono što plaća kasnije (PDV, etc..), a moje mišljenje da daje i preko 60% zarađenog novca na ime 'skrivenih' davanja u smislu trošarina na gorivo i ostalo...

b) ovakvo 'gaženje' bi se smatralo zelenaškim ugovorom i kao takvim pravno ništavnim u 'normalnoj' pravnoj državi. Stoga pitanje:

JE LI MOJA DOMOVNICA ZELENAŠKI UGOVOR MENE I DRŽAVE? TREBAJU LI GRAĐANI TRAŽITI PONIŠTENJE TAKVIH "UGOVORA"?


Eto samo da istaknem kako možda ljudi i ne bi trebali uzimati kredite od banaka kad bi dobivali ono što zarade, što potvrđuje da je država aparat prisile i prinude i ništa više, a da smo svi mi robovi, ma kako mislili da živimo u nekim demokracijama ili ko zna kojim sistemima...


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Baš jutros naiđoh na sljedeće:

“We must do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. It is a fact today that one in ten thousand of us can make a technological breakthrough capable of supporting all the rest. The youth of today are absolutely right in recognizing this nonsense of earning a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian-Darwinian theory, he must justify his right to exist. So we have inspectors of inspectors and people making instruments for inspectors to inspect inspectors. The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living.”
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Baš jutros naiđoh na sljedeće:

“We must do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. It is a fact today that one in ten thousand of us can make a technological breakthrough capable of supporting all the rest. The youth of today are absolutely right in recognizing this nonsense of earning a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian-Darwinian theory, he must justify his right to exist. So we have inspectors of inspectors and people making instruments for inspectors to inspect inspectors. The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living.”
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Mandrilo, Tree - odlični postovi.

Saželi ste upravo ono bitno. Žao mi je što velika većina ljudi ovo ne shvaća.

Kad ja kažem da mi ne treba država ni porezi ni vlada ni zakoni, onda me svi gledaju ko da sam poludjela. Anarhista!

A baš je tako. Ništa mi od vas ne treba, samo me pustite na miru da se sama snalazim i ne posežite u moj džep! Ne treba mi ni mirovinsko ni osiguranja ni socijalno ni zdravstveno.

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Mislim da je država ipak veći pljačkaš od banaka: http://danas.net.hr/novac/splicanin-...drzava-peljesi

Samo da izdvojim:
a) prosječan radni čovjek daje oko 50% plaće države na ime svih poreza na plaću, te na sve ono što plaća kasnije (PDV, etc..), a moje mišljenje da daje i preko 60% zarađenog novca na ime 'skrivenih' davanja u smislu trošarina na gorivo i ostalo...

b) ovakvo 'gaženje' bi se smatralo zelenaškim ugovorom i kao takvim pravno ništavnim u 'normalnoj' pravnoj državi. Stoga pitanje:

JE LI MOJA DOMOVNICA ZELENAŠKI UGOVOR MENE I DRŽAVE? TREBAJU LI GRAĐANI TRAŽITI PONIŠTENJE TAKVIH "UGOVORA"?


Eto samo da istaknem kako možda ljudi i ne bi trebali uzimati kredite od banaka kad bi dobivali ono što zarade, što potvrđuje da je država aparat prisile i prinude i ništa više, a da smo svi mi robovi, ma kako mislili da živimo u nekim demokracijama ili ko zna kojim sistemima...
Država je par ljudi koji dogovaraju sa olfo diplomatima tj. predstavnicima banaka.
Vlast eventualno pokušava pokrit goleme rupe koje su izbušili bankari. Jako malo novca ostaje i stoga, kad imaš silu protiv koje nemaš šanse...ostaje ti jedino da radiš sa onime što ti je ostalo.
To što je ostalo su porezi, kresanje sredstava javnog sektora što uključuje zdravstvenu skrb, socijalnu, privatizacijom onemoćenu narodnu banku pa time i povoljno kreditiranje poljoprivrede (proizvodnje hrane) itd.
Država ne odlučuje.
Zašto?
Zato što bilo koja odluka u suprotnosti sa parazitom koji je s vremenom postao dio organizma znači sukob sa vlastitim organizmom.
Nešto tipa filma Alien. Nemoš ga istrgnut jer će u protivnom spustit ti kreditni rejting (btw. američke privatne firme koje ga dodjeljuju), blokirat trgovačko poslovanje...i najgore od svega, odsjeć kreditnu liniju o kojoj ovisiš poput vampira zbog privatizacija koje su prethodno postale temelj našeg svakodnevnog socijalnog života.
Stvarnost je da država više nema ništa sa time. Ona ne odlučuje.
Sustav koji kontrolira i manipulira svjetskom ekonomijom odlučuje koga će ubit ili nagradit. Stoga, il si za..il protiv. Vjerovatno bi ti zadnje kao političaru bilo da budeš pamćen po najvećoj depresiji zemlje koju vodiš. To ti može priuštit par ljudi ako ih ne poslušaš.


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Razgovor s Davorom Pavunom (III.)

http://www.hrt.hr/index.php?id=439&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=177763&tx_ttnews[backPid]=439&cHash=552dbd9ed0

Poslušajete i najnoviji razgovor s hrvatskim fizičarom, znanstvenikom i inovatorom Davorom Pavunom, emitiranim u jutarnjem programu ovog ponedjeljka, u kojem Pavuna uz mnoge konkretne odgovore ističe i šalje poruku Ljubavi, Zajedništva i Suosjećanja.


Razgovor s Davorom Pavunom (IV.)

http://www.hrt.hr/index.php?id=439&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=178661&tx_ttnews[backPid]=439&cHash=0589d7d98f

U seriji razgovora s hrvatskim fizičarem i znanstvenikom Davorom Pavunom govorimo o:
– odgoju i edukaciji djece;
– pronalasku boljeg čovjeka u sebi,
– podizanju razine svijesti,
– razotkrivanju načina manipulacije i rasvjetljavanju nasrtaja politike i financijskih manipulatora na ljudsko samopouzdanje te
– borbi protiv manipulatora svijesti.


Može li nas materijalno usrećiti… (V.)

http://www.hrt.hr/index.php?id=439&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=179367&tx_ttnews[backPid]=439&cHash=4dbeda9db6

Donosimo odgovore na psihosocijalna i društvena pitanja normi. Što nam je i koliko potrebno kako bismo bili sretni? Čine li nas materijalne stvari sretnijima i društveno prihvaćenijima? Kako i čime popuniti svu međugalaktičku prazninu?


Pavuna o duhovnom Tesli (VI.)

http://www.hrt.hr/index.php?id=439&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=180256&tx_ttnews[backPid]=439&cHash=e79aa10622

Poznati znanstvenik i vizionar Davor Pavuna odgovara na pitanja slušatelja o hagioterapiji i HAARP-u (eng. High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, Program aktivnog auroralnog istraživanja visoke frekvencije).

O velikom istraživaču i izumitelju Nikoli Tesli govori pak na drugačiji način, kakvoga još niste upoznali.


Razgovor s Davorom Pavunom (VII.)

http://www.hrt.hr/index.php?id=439&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=181271&tx_ttnews[backPid]=439&cHash=de796898ef

Pavuna u ovom 7. razgovoru za Radio Pulu govorio o novim vrijednostima na kojima bi trebalo organizirati Hrvatsku. Na početku govori o tome da bi svatko od nas trebao pustiti Božju energiju, koju svi imamo, da slobodno izađe iz nas kroz ono što nam je darovano.


Razgovor s Davorom Pavunom (VIII.)

http://www.hrt.hr/index.php?id=439&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=183457&tx_ttnews[backPid]=439&cHash=98eb2f1312

U 8. nastavku serije razgovora s poznatim znanstvenikom i vizionarom Davorom Pavunom govorimo o održivom razvoju, s naglaskom na održivi razvoj Hrvatske i Istre te o stvaranju prostora za medijsku manipulaciju i poticanju straha kao alata za manipulaciju.


Davor Pavuna o manipulaciji strahom (IX.)

http://www.hrt.hr/index.php?id=439&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=184810&tx_ttnews[backPid]=439&cHash=b03c8f2221

Znanstvenik, fizičar i inovator Davor Pavuna govori o strahu i manipulaciji strahom u svakodnevnom životu. Na koji način prepoznati manipulacije strahom te kako osvijestiti svakodnevne medijske manipulacije - poslušajte u ovoj emisiji.
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II Razgovor s Davorom Pavunom (II.)
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