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Nepročitano 21-11-12, 10:18   #1
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Sklapanjem nepovoljnih ugovora sa Svetom Stolicom Republika Hrvatska izdvaja previše prijeko potrebnih proračunskih sredstava. Ugovori zadiru u Ustav države, sekularnost države gubi na značaju. Druge vjerske zajednice su u neravnopravnom položaju.
Postoje 4 ugovora sa Svetom Stolicom:
  1. 1.Ugovor između Svete Stolice i Republike Hrvatske o suradnji na području odgoja i kulture;
  2. 2.Ugovor između Svete Stolice i Republike Hrvatske o dušobrižništvu katoličkih vjernika, pripadnika oružanih snaga i redarstvenih službi Republike Hrvatske;
  3. 3.Ugovor između Svete Stolice i Republike Hrvatske o pravnim pitanjima;
  4. 4.Ugovor između Svete Stolice i Republike Hrvatske o gospodarskim pitanjima.
Osim temeljne isplate koja je vidljiva u proračunu država na temelju ovih ugovora daje znatno veću svotu crkvi koju krije kroz ostale stavke proračuna, kao što su plaće, obrazovanje...
Ukupan iznos koji država isplaćuje zbog Ugovora sa Svetom stolicom nije 245 milijuna kuna, već doseže 1 milijardu kuna!
http://h-alter.org/vijesti/hrvatska/...print:true?m=0
Crkva se svakodnevno miješa u politički i društveni život građana, čime narušava sekularnost i temeljne slobode nekih građana. Ne drži se temelja vjere koju sama propagira.
Od ukupnog broja poglavara Katoličke crkve - 265, najmanje 10 ih je među najvećim zločincima svijeta.
Zalažu se za istraživanje zločina 2. svjetskog rata dok zločine crkve prikrivaju i drže neistraženim.
Skromnost i zavjet siromaštva zamijenili su pohlepom.
Ugovori bi trebali značiti da obje strane imaju neku korist. Koju korist imaju građani RH osim imaginarne i obećanja?
Ako su oko 90% građana katolici, zbog čega crkveni porez ne bi plaćali samo oni koji se izjasne da to žele?
Takav zakon uspješno funkcionira u mnogim razvijenim državama.


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Ako su oko 90% građana katolici, zbog čega crkveni porez ne bi plaćali samo oni koji se izjasne da to žele?

Bojim se zato što se izgleda jako malo građana izjasnilo katolicima u posljednjem popisu stanovništva - što bi i mogao biti jedan od razloga zbog kojeg nikako da saznamo rezultate istog (a platili smo iz vlastitog džepa).

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Evo, ako netko želi potpisati peticiju za reviziju/raskid ugovora RH s ekipom iz Vatikana, evo linka:

http://www.change.org/petitions/vlada-republike-hrvatske-referendum-za-ukidanje-ugovora-izme%C4%91u-svete-stolice-i-republike-hrvatske
9,237 signatures, danas

još samo par = > 748 NEEDED


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