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NIsam znao da je to moguće kod novorođenčadi. Obično se kasnije znaju stvari poremetiti, zbog problema sa hormonima. Doduše, obzirom na to s čime se sve ljudi danas hrane i udišu, svašta je moguće.
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Dogadjaju se varijacije kromozoma , pa tako postoje
XXY ( neki sindrom) ima jedan od 500 muskaraca ,
XYY, jedan na 1000 ili
X jedna od 2500 zena.
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NIsam znao da je to moguće kod novorođenčadi. Obično se kasnije znaju stvari poremetiti, zbog problema sa hormonima. Doduše, obzirom na to s čime se sve ljudi danas hrane i udišu, svašta je moguće.
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Ništa konkretno, ali nije to neka tajna, odguglaj malo ...


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Nepročitano 28-11-13, 12:00   #1053
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Dogadjaju se varijacije kromozoma , pa tako postoje
XXY ( neki sindrom) ima jedan od 500 muskaraca ,
XYY, jedan na 1000 ili
X jedna od 2500 zena.
http://www.stern.de/gesundheit/2-ges...n-1511555.html
Ako se misli na gene, to je u redu, ali ja nisam vidio da netko ima i rođenjem funkcionalne muške i ženske spolne organe u isto vrijeme.
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Ako se misli na gene, to je u redu, ali ja nisam vidio da netko ima i rođenjem funkcionalne muške i ženske spolne organe u isto vrijeme.
Pa kako bi vidio, osim da se ljudi šeću goli ili da imaš rendgenske oči.
Jajnici su smješteni unutar trbušne šupljine.

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Ako se misli na gene, to je u redu, ali ja nisam vidio da netko ima i rođenjem funkcionalne muške i ženske spolne organe u isto vrijeme.
To isto si kazu i ljekari, koji naidju na takav slucaj,
pri porodu i onda "lupe" spol djeteta, iako nisu sigurni, jer obitelj ceka ...
kasnije se ispostavi da se pojedinac razvije u suprotnom smjeru
od 'propisanog' i naravno, pati zbog toga. Na takve pojedinacne
slucajeve se odnosi novi zakon u Njemackoj a ne na volju roditelja ili
pravilo da se spol djeteta ne odredjuje.


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Pa kako bi vidio, osim da se ljudi šeću goli ili da imaš rendgenske oči.
Jajnici su smješteni unutar trbušne šupljine.

I što znači funkcionalno? Jajnik je jajnik - bez obzira da li postoje još i testisi i piša u kompletu.
NIsam razmatrao nešto što je unutra, već što se vidi . Gledao sam razne anomalije u medicinskim knjigama, ali nigdje nisam vidio penis i vaginu u isto vrijeme.
Da pojasnim, jer izgleda da me nitko ne kuži. Vratimo se natrag, njemački zakon.
Dakle, ne analiziraju svi kromosome, niti daju dijete na rentgen čim se rodi . Pretpostavio sam da se nešto vidi i da na temelju toga roditelji mogu odlučiti da ne definiraju spol.
S druge strane, ako je rađena amniocenteza pa se ustanovilo odstupanje kromosoma od standardne sheme, a postoje sva obilježja određnog spola, onda mi je malo blesavo ne definirati spol djeteta bez obzira na kromosome. Zamislimo kako je to dijete već rođenjem obilježeno. Zamislimo i praktične implikacije. Prvo, kako će dijete oblačiti, staviti suknju djetetu koje izgleda kao muško? Drugo, u osnovnim dokumentima piše spol i sada dijete pošalju u školu sa opaskom spol-neodređen? Onda ta informacija procuri i svi to dijete čudno gledaju.
Moje dvojba je bila izražena u smislu da bi ipak trebalo rođenjem odrediti neki spol djetetu, a kasnije ako je potrebno, to se uvijek može izmjeniti, što se redovito i događa.
Jedini problem jest ako ima i vaginu i penis za što nisam siguran da postoji. U tom slučaju bih smatrao da je relevantno odakle izlazi urin i to isključivo zbog praktičnih implikacija, recimo odlaska u ženski ili muški wc
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NIsam razmatrao nešto što je unutra, već što se vidi . Gledao sam razne anomalije u medicinskim knjigama, ali nigdje nisam vidio penis i vaginu u isto vrijeme.
Da pojasnim, jer izgleda da me nitko ne kuži. Vratimo se natrag, njemački zakon.
Dakle, ne analiziraju svi kromosome, niti daju dijete na rentgen čim se rodi . Pretpostavio sam da se nešto vidi i da na temelju toga roditelji mogu odlučiti da ne definiraju spol.
S druge strane, ako je rađena amniocenteza pa se ustanovilo odstupanje kromosoma od standardne sheme, a postoje sva obilježja određnog spola, onda mi je malo blesavo ne definirati spol djeteta bez obzira na kromosome. Zamislimo kako je to dijete već rođenjem obilježeno. Zamislimo i praktične implikacije. Prvo, kako će dijete oblačiti, staviti suknju djetetu koje izgleda kao muško? Drugo, u osnovnim dokumentima piše spol i sada dijete pošalju u školu sa opaskom spol-neodređen? Onda ta informacija procuri i svi to dijete čudno gledaju.
Moje dvojba je bila izražena u smislu da bi ipak trebalo rođenjem odrediti neki spol djetetu, a kasnije ako je potrebno, to se uvijek može izmjeniti, što se redovito i događa.
Jedini problem jest ako ima i vaginu i penis za što nisam siguran da postoji. U tom slučaju bih smatrao da je relevantno odakle izlazi urin i to isključivo zbog praktičnih implikacija, recimo odlaska u ženski ili muški wc
Ae, i to stoji - ti si skroz praktičan.

Ali, ima i ona da se definira djetetu recimo spol ženski, odijeva ga se u suknjice a ono je 'unutra' muško i bude frustrirano skroz jer ga se tretira i odgaja "u suprotnom smjeru".

Naravno - mislim da je još prerano za ovakve definicije: spol neodređen jer ljudska svijest nije na toj razini. Kad ne može prihvatiti ni ravnopravnost oba spola, onda što se dalje ima uopće govoriti.


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Ae, i to stoji - ti si skroz praktičan.

Ali, ima i ona da se definira djetetu recimo spol ženski, odijeva ga se u suknjice a ono je 'unutra' muško i bude frustrirano skroz jer ga se tretira i odgaja "u suprotnom smjeru".

Naravno - mislim da je još prerano za ovakve definicije: spol neodređen jer ljudska svijest nije na toj razini. Kad ne može prihvatiti ni ravnopravnost oba spola, onda što se dalje ima uopće govoriti.
To je istina, ali zato postoje liječnici, psiholozi i slično koji trebaju obrazovati roditelje. Frustracije će uvijek biti, radi se o tome da se ljudi gledaju individualno i da frustracija bude najmanja. A stalno nas neki pokušavaju ukalupiti...
Istina, neodređen spol je teški atack na um današnjeg čovjeka
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Jedini problem jest ako ima i vaginu i penis za što nisam siguran da postoji. U tom slučaju bih smatrao da je relevantno odakle izlazi urin i to isključivo zbog praktičnih implikacija, recimo odlaska u ženski ili muški wc
Primjetila sam da toaleti, na novoizgradjenim autobanodmaralistima,
nemaju odvojene muske i zenske wc -e, nego obadva znaka iznad jednih
vrata.


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Primjetila sam da toaleti, na novoizgradjenim autobanodmaralistima,
nemaju odvojene muske i zenske wc -e, nego obadva znaka iznad jednih
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Koja ušteda.......
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