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Za one koji nisu znali kako nas svijet gleda:

Meni jedino nije jasno kaj košta 6,2 mil euros?

Par kartonskih kutija na izbornim mjestima? Prebrojavanje glasova koje danas može obaviti doslovno jedna osoba + excelica ili nekaj slično?

Ili je to samo još jedan način pranja love na naš domaći način?


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Meni jedino nije jasno kaj košta 6,2 mil euros?

Par kartonskih kutija na izbornim mjestima? Prebrojavanje glasova koje danas može obaviti doslovno jedna osoba + excelica ili nekaj slično?

Ili je to samo još jedan način pranja love na naš domaći način?
i komisiju treba platiti, koliko se sjećam prije je svaki član bio plaćen oko 300 kn
u svakom slučaju sve je to bespotreban trošak


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Meni jedino nije jasno kaj košta 6,2 mil euros?

Par kartonskih kutija na izbornim mjestima? Prebrojavanje glasova koje danas može obaviti doslovno jedna osoba + excelica ili nekaj slično?

Ili je to samo još jedan način pranja love na naš domaći način?
Pa i nisi baš upućena u aritmetiku velikih brojki . Organizirati nešto za par milijuna ljudi u jedan dan iziskuje popriličnu svotu novca. Svi ti ljudi su plaćeni, od sjedenja uz glasačku kutiju do prebrojavanja. Potom tiskanje kutija, tiskanje listića, tiskanje biračkih spiskova itd. Najgluplje je što se moraju tiskati listići za svakoga, a 30% ljudi izađe na referendum ili izbore. ... ostalo sve u smeće.
Ali mi smo ipak Balkanci, pa si možemo to priuštiti, kaj ne?
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Pa i nisi baš upućena u aritmetiku velikih brojki . Organizirati nešto za par milijuna ljudi u jedan dan iziskuje popriličnu svotu novca. Svi ti ljudi su plaćeni, od sjedenja uz glasačku kutiju do prebrojavanja. Potom tiskanje kutija, tiskanje listića, tiskanje biračkih spiskova itd. Najgluplje je što se moraju tiskati listići za svakoga, a 30% ljudi izađe na referendum ili izbore. ... ostalo sve u smeće.
Ali mi smo ipak Balkanci, pa si možemo to priuštiti, kaj ne?
Idiotizam. Danas - u eri računala tiskati materijal. Mislim, ono ...?! Zar se ne može napraviti elektronsko glasovanje?


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Idiotizam. Danas - u eri računala tiskati materijal. Mislim, ono ...?! Zar se ne može napraviti elektronsko glasovanje?
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A je. Ako smo išta, onda smo bar praktični.

Čitavo čudo troškova bi se tu izbjeglo - od troškova materijala do ljudskog rada. Osim toga - pa nisu valjda optimistično tiskali 3,5 milijuna listića?! A postoje i printeri koji na licu mjesta mogu isprintati listić - AKO USFALI. Tu mogućnost isto nisu razmotrili?!?
Eh, uz ovako gospodarenje resursima i ovakvu kratkovidnost - nema nam druge nego propast.


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A je. Ako smo išta, onda smo bar praktični.

Čitavo čudo troškova bi se tu izbjeglo - od troškova materijala do ljudskog rada. Osim toga - pa nisu valjda optimistično tiskali 3,5 milijuna listića?! A postoje i printeri koji na licu mjesta mogu isprintati listić - AKO USFALI. Tu mogućnost isto nisu razmotrili?!?
Eh, uz ovako gospodarenje resursima i ovakvu kratkovidnost - nema nam druge nego propast.
eto vidiš, ja uvijek kažem da ima novca, ali ne znamo njime gospodariti
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Idiotizam. Danas - u eri računala tiskati materijal. Mislim, ono ...?! Zar se ne može napraviti elektronsko glasovanje?
Bojim se da ne . A razlozi su što mora postojati pisani trag, što je elektroničko glasovanje izuzetno teško kontrolirati i podložno je manipulaciji. Konkretno, ne znam da li bih ja izdržao da ne ubacim mali virus koji bi povećao broj glasova protiv .
A zamisli tek koliko bi koštala računala na glasačkim mjestima. Potom zakup linije do centralnog računala, cijena koštanja centralnog računala, održavanja svega toga, redovite provjere da nema malicioznog koda itd., sam smještaj računala kada se ne glasuje itd. To više nisu milijuni već stotine milijuna . Mislim da to nitko živ ne radi. Eventualno se to može unutar jedne organizacije, sabor itd.
Na licu mjesta isprintati... opet treba kupiti printer...bla...bla
A u saboru znamo koji je problem, tada se ne može kontrolirati da li članovi stranke glasuju po direktivi ili po vlastitoj savjesti
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Ne znam baš... čini mi se da ih ima i previše . Jedni pognu glavu i guraju bez da išta gledaju, a drugi se vrte oko bitnih stvari kao mačak oko vruće kaše i sve ih smeta jer nije savršeno, pa ostaje status quo :)
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Bojim se da ne . A razlozi su što mora postojati pisani trag, što je elektroničko glasovanje izuzetno teško kontrolirati i podložno je manipulaciji. Konkretno, ne znam da li bih ja izdržao da ne ubacim mali virus koji bi povećao broj glasova protiv .
A zamisli tek koliko bi koštala računala na glasačkim mjestima. Potom zakup linije do centralnog računala, cijena koštanja centralnog računala, održavanja svega toga, redovite provjere da nema malicioznog koda itd., sam smještaj računala kada se ne glasuje itd. To više nisu milijuni već stotine milijuna . Mislim da to nitko živ ne radi. Eventualno se to može unutar jedne organizacije, sabor itd.
A u saboru znamo koji je problem, tada se ne može kontrolirati da li članovi stranke glasuju po direktivi ili po vlastitoj savjesti
Kad bi bilo volje, bilo bi i načina.
Ali očigledno je da nema volje, jer onda rođo ne može zaraditi, ne možeš ubaciti pola rođaka u komisiju i tako....


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