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Nepročitano 25-05-13, 14:49   #491
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Slažem se. Treba educirat ljude u kojih neznanje izaziva strah, netrpeljivost pa i nasilje prema drugim ljudima koji im nikakvog zla nisu učinili.
Drastično poboljšat obrazovni sustav i na takav način usput stjerat crkvu na margine.
A ja se ne slažem.
Crkva lijepo kaže da pedere treba stjerati u četiri zida i da tamo rade što hoće a ne da takvi usvajaju djecu i da bez problema pričaju kako je čmar isto seksualni spolni organ i da je govno u toj igri normalan produkt kojeg se čovjek ne bi trebao stiditi.
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Nekultura je sasvim drugi problem, a opet drugi problem što ti iz svog ograničenog iskustva hoćeš reći da je druženje sa homoseksualcima normalna stvar bez problema. Pazi..i homoseksualci su kao i heteroseksualci skloni vjerovati da mogu imati uspjeha sa drugom osobom bez obzira.... jer "čula su toliko snažna da odvraćaju um čak i razboritog čovjeka koji nastoji da ga obuzda" (Bhagavad gita).
Neko vrijeme sam se redovito družio sa mješanom ekipom u kojoj je bilo više homo od hetero orijentiranih. Tulumarili smo po techno partijima i privatnima. Nikad mi se nitko nije uvaljivao. Čak se ne sjećam da sam ikad vidio da su se njihovi parovi ikad poljubili. Jedan muški par sam bolje poznavao i mogu reć da su fenomenalni dečki. Kad si kod njih došao na tulum, uvijek su bili vrlo korektni, vodili prema svima računa da se dobro osjećaju i vrlo nesebično o svom trošku često kupovali cugu i hranu i poslije tuluma sami sve čistili i pospremali.

Jedan od njih (Marko) ima vikendicu na moru, davao je ključeve svima koji su ga tražili i na kraju su mu mnogi od njih okrenuli leđa kad mu je bilo najteže.


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A ja se ne slažem.
Crkva lijepo kaže da pedere treba stjerati u četiri zida i da tamo rade što hoće a ne da takvi usvajaju djecu i da bez problema pričaju kako je čmar isto seksualni spolni organ i da je govno u toj igri normalan produkt kojeg se čovjek ne bi trebao stiditi.
Zato i kažem, edukacija i crkva ne idu zajedno.


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Da li treba svaki skup dozvoliti ? Da opet navedem primer pedofila: Zasto je njima zabranjeno ? Je li to diskriminacija, gde su njihova prava ?

Dakle mora se naci granica. Nije demokratija da radi ko sta hoce. Ne mozes ostvarivati svoja prava a da time na neki nacin ugrozavas druge.
LGBT populacija uporno hoce da tu granicu pomeri.

Zašto stalno spominješ pedofile u usporedbi sa homoseksualcima??? Kakve veze ima jedno s drugim??? Mislim da je granica postavljena i jasno određena i da se neće prijeći. Pedofili ugrožavaju djecu. Homoseksualci nikoga. Razumijem njihovu borbu za prava koja imaju svi ostali ljudi, kad već imaju obaveze kao svi ostali ljudi. Žena sam, i puno puta sam iskusila na svojoj koži kako samo na papiru imam sva ljudska prava. Nije lijep osjećaj.
Mislim da trenutno najveći problem prihvaćanja homoseksualaca uzrokuju upravo oni sami, tj. njihovi ekstremisti, ponekad i vrlo agresivni. Zato su parade postale cirkus, kič i neukus umjesto dostojanstvenog i miroljubivog "pritiska" za ostvarenje prava. U tom slučaju se mogu složiti da demokracija nije da se radi ko što hoće, jer ne moram gledati po ulici polugole žene i muškarce u ružičastom, sa bičevima, kako se žvaljakaju i drpaju. Bilo da su hetero bilo da su homo orjentacije.




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A ja se ne slažem.
Crkva lijepo kaže da pedere treba stjerati u četiri zida i da tamo rade što hoće a ne da takvi usvajaju djecu i da bez problema pričaju kako je čmar isto seksualni spolni organ i da je govno u toj igri normalan produkt kojeg se čovjek ne bi trebao stiditi.

Crkva to kaže i za žene.




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btw...već sam pitala a čini mi se još netko....što je to muškarcima čarobno privlačno u dupetu (nebitno čijem, ženskom ili muškom)? I kako nije prirodno kada to voli velika većina?? Đe kvaka??

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Crkva to kaže i za žene.
I za one koji razmišljaju svojom glavom, i za one koji se ne slažu s njihovom dogmom, i za sve one koji žele transcendirati sve te gluposti kojih smo se naslušali tijekom 2000 godina vladavine crkvenog apsolutizma.

Duša, naše unutarnje sebstvo, nema spol - kao što svatko tko je istražio vlastite dubine i svatko tko zna tko je uistinu, jako dobro zna.

Procjena je da u svijetu ima 4% gay populacije koja nas ničime ne ugrožava, prema tome, svatko tko se osjeća ugrožen i tko se gadi tih ljudi trebao bi jako dobro promisliti i potražiti odgovore u sebi o tome zašto je to tako.

Teal je uistinu sve jako lijepo objasnila i mislim da svatko tko sebe smatra duhovnom i svjesnom osobom ne može imati nikakve predrasude u tom smjeru.

Danas su gejevi, sutra crnci, preksutra muslimani, zatim po redu svi koji se po bilo čemu razikuju od nas ... gdje je kraj?

Stvarno ne mogu vjerovati da je tolika netolerancija i tolika razina nerazumijevanja još uvijek moguća, i među ljudima u 21. stoljeću.


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I za one koji razmišljaju svojom glavom, i za one koji se ne slažu s njihovom dogmom, i za sve one koji žele transcendirati sve te gluposti kojih smo se naslušali tijekom 2000 godina vladavine crkvenog apsolutizma.

Duša, naše unutarnje sebstvo, nema spol - kao što svatko tko je istražio vlastite dubine i svatko tko zna tko je uistinu, jako dobro zna.

Procjena je da u svijetu ima 4% gay populacije koja nas ničime ne ugrožava, prema tome, svatko tko se osjeća ugrožen i tko se gadi tih ljudi trebao bi jako dobro promisliti i potražiti odgovore u sebi o tome zašto je to tako.

Teal je uistinu sve jako lijepo objasnila i mislim da svatko tko sebe smatra duhovnom i svjesnom osobom ne može imati nikakve predrasude u tom smjeru.

Danas su gejevi, sutra crnci, preksutra muslimani, zatim po redu svi koji se po bilo čemu razikuju od nas ... gdje je kraj?

Stvarno ne mogu vjerovati da je tolika netolerancija i tolika razina nerazumijevanja još uvijek moguća, i među ljudima u 21. stoljeću.
Još nekoliko stoljeća će proći da se ljudi prestanu dijeliti po bilo kojoj osnovi.
Nego, sjetih se....glede odgoja djece u istospolnoj zajednici...Pa imamo takvih primjera bezbroj kada su se djeca odgajala gotovo čitav život samo sa majkom i bakom jer su očevi bili posvuda. I nisu dječaci zbog toga bili feminizirani ili postali homoseksualci.




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