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Nepročitano 31-01-14, 16:23   #31
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svaki duh koji ne ispovijeda Isusa Krista kao Sina Božjeg koji se utjelovio u čovjeku, umro i uskrsnuo da otkupi naše grijehe nije od Boga..
u ovo se samo može vjerovati.
Istinu(Boga) u svom ontološkom smislu, ne možemo dohvatiti.

Logička istina (istina našega logosa), nije odmah i opća istina.

Dakle, sukladno tom i tom poglavlju nekog Pisma, možemo reći da taj duh koji ne ispovijeda (....), nije od Boga.


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u ovo se samo može vjerovati.
Istinu(Boga) u svom ontološkom smislu, ne možemo dohvatiti.

Logička istina (istina našega logosa), nije odmah i opća istina.

Dakle, sukladno tom i tom poglavlju nekog Pisma, možemo reći da taj duh koji ne ispovijeda (....), nije od Boga.
trgni se iz tih vatikanskih trkeljarija i misticizama.. isprazne vjere uma.. vjere bez znanja.. bez srca.. vjere koja osigurava samo nadu u spasenje, no ne i sigurno znanje o spasenju putem Duha Svetoga..

vjera bez srca, bez djela, bez Duha Svetoga, bez znanja nije vjera, već religija.. a religija je poput lažne ulaznice na koncert.. najgore je kada za to saznaš na vratima..

znaš li uistinu da si spašena ili se samo nadaš da jesi? znaš li to doista u srcu? Jeli ti se Duh Sveti objavio i ispunio te? Pričaš li u jezicima? Želiš li obećanja ili ispunjenja? Vjeruješ li Riječi Božjoj? Živiš li ju? Teče li tvojim venama Kristova krv? Trgni se! Probudi se!


Jedan je Bog. Jedna je Riječ Božja. Jedna je Istina. Jedan je Spasitelj. Jedan je Isus Krist iz Nazareta. Jedan VJEČAN i NEPROMJENJIV sva mu SLAVA I HVALA!


Uistinu, Bog je tako ljubio svijet te je dao svoga Sina Jedinorođenca da nijedan koji u njega vjeruje ne propadne, nego da ima život vječni.
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trgni se iz tih vatikanskih trkeljarija i misticizama.. isprazne vjere uma.. vjere bez znanja.. bez srca.. vjere koja osigurava samo nadu u spasenje, no ne i sigurno znanje o spasenju putem Duha Svetoga..

vjera bez srca, bez djela, bez Duha Svetoga, bez znanja nije vjera, već religija.. a religija je poput lažne ulaznice na koncert.. najgore je kada za to saznaš na vratima..

.......
a jesi ga sad isprojicirao svega i svačega, u me....
ne možeš znati kakva je moja vjera i moje srce.
Samo možeš reći o sebi......

Što se tiče Sina u Ocu, slažem se, neka mu je vječna slava i hvala.......
u zajedništvu sa Duhom Svetim.

Pravi test vjere i preobrazbe Duhom je ljubav prema neljubivome, drugačijemu od nas i onoga tko nas "pribija na križ".
Kad se u nama realizira takva ljubav, onda mogu reći da smo preobraženi Duhom.


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a jesi ga sad isprojicirao svega i svačega, u me....
ne možeš znati kakva je moja vjera i moje srce.
Samo možeš reći o sebi......

Što se tiče Sina u Ocu, slažem se, neka mu je vječna slava i hvala.......
u zajedništvu sa Duhom Svetim.

Pravi test vjere i preobrazbe Duhom je ljubav prema neljubivome, drugačijemu od nas i onoga tko nas "pribija na križ".
Kad se u nama realizira takva ljubav, onda mogu reći da smo preobraženi Duhom.
to sestro malo snage! malo Duha!!

Ja korim i odgajam one koje ljubim. Revan budi i obrati se! Evo, na vratima stojim i kucam; posluša li tko glas moj i otvori mi vrata, unići ću k njemu i večerati s njim i on sa mnom. Pobjednika ću posjesti sa sobom na prijestolje svoje, kao što i ja, pobijedivši, sjedoh s Ocem svojim na prijestolje njegovo. Tko ima uho, nek posluša što Duh govori crkvama!
Otkrivenje 3:19-22


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Tema je bila o duhovima i pitala si kako znati kakvoga duha neko ima.. Riječ Božja, a ne moja dala ti je odgovor.. pa ako je negdje zapelo pročitaj opet direktno Riječ Božju.

http://biblehub.com/cro/1_john/4.htm


Dakle ispovijeda li duh kojega imaš Isusa Krista kao Sina Božjeg koji se utjelovio u čovjeku, koji je umro i uskrsnuo da otkupi naše grijehe?


Zbilja.. toliko je jednostavno.. kako duh kojega imaš reagira na to.. proučavaj..

no želiš li radije petljati i mistificirati tako jednostavnu stvar samo izvoli.. varaš samo sebe samu..
Koji duh? O cemu ti?
Eto ovakav krizarski stav stvara ateiste - iskreno se nadam da neces izgorjet i da ces pronaci modus propovijedanja u skladu s Isusovim


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Koji duh? O cemu ti?
Eto ovakav krizarski stav stvara ateiste - iskreno se nadam da neces izgorjet i da ces pronaci modus propovijedanja u skladu s Isusovim
Hvala! Jedan je Isus.. Spasitelj.. dao sam cijeloga sebe njemu i uz pomoć Duha Svetoga kada smo novorođeni u Kristu sve je moguće.. isto to od srca se nadam i ja za tebe


Uistinu, Bog je tako ljubio svijet te je dao svoga Sina Jedinorođenca da nijedan koji u njega vjeruje ne propadne, nego da ima život vječni.
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Koliko smo uistinu svijesni.. da je vecina new age učenja i tehnika serviranih danas masama u naizgled "prhvatljivim" paketima, zapravo okultizam?
Uoo, znaš li ti uopće što je to okultizam?
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mislim, zanimljivo je da Uoo kao moderator to nije uvidio, dapače, i sam ih otvara.....možda više nije u mogućnosti moderirati zbog promjena koje je doživio.........

ovako osobe koje dolaze na forum su zatečene i na neki način zavedene......
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a kaj ova tema radi ođe?????? Prebaciti na religiju........


isto i ova tema

mislim, zanimljivo je da Uoo kao moderator to nije uvidio, dapače, i sam ih otvara.....možda više nije u mogućnosti moderirati zbog promjena koje je doživio.........

ovako osobe koje dolaze na forum su zatečene i na neki način zavedene......
slažem se, možda je vrijeme došlo da svoje moderatorske sposobnosti oproba na nekom drugom mjestu, poput glasa koncila ili sličnom.
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