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Nepročitano 03-02-14, 20:27   #41
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u stvari što je okultno,ozbiljno,,svaka loša miso bi trebala bit okultna ,kao nešto loše prema nekome ,primjer govorim,,, to je jedina okultnost ,
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Okultno znaci skriveno odnosno ne svima ocigledno
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Okultno znaci skriveno odnosno ne svima ocigledno
tako je.

"the word occult is derived from the latin adjective occultus: "hidden," which comes from the latin verb occultare : "to hide; to conceal; to keep secret."
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u stvari što je okultno,ozbiljno,,svaka loša miso bi trebala bit okultna ,kao nešto loše prema nekome ,primjer govorim,,, to je jedina okultnost ,
recimo da nekolicina ljudi posjeduje znanje i to znanje skriva od mase. to bi bilo okultno (skriveno) znanje. zbog nepoznavanja pravog značenja riječi događaju se manipulacije, koje mogu biti vrlo apsurdne.
npr. vrh neke organizirane religijske institucije posjeduje određeno okultno znanje i skrivajući ga od mase svojih podanika, iste te podanike odvraćaju od potrage za pravim (skrivenim) znanjem davajući "okultnom" negativan predznak.
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Uoo, znaš li ti uopće što je to okultizam?
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No, no ... ne biti tako strog i zloćest.
kako bi bio stroćest sa tim smislom za humor


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recimo da nekolicina ljudi posjeduje znanje i to znanje skriva od mase. to bi bilo okultno (skriveno) znanje. zbog nepoznavanja pravog značenja riječi događaju se manipulacije, koje mogu biti vrlo apsurdne.
npr. vrh neke organizirane religijske institucije posjeduje određeno okultno znanje i skrivajući ga od mase svojih podanika, iste te podanike odvraćaju od potrage za pravim (skrivenim) znanjem davajući "okultnom" negativan predznak.
To može biti i neko praktično znanje - npr. ako ja znam što je mobitel i kako se koristi, meni to znanje nije okultno, ali nekom domorocu iz prašume Amazone je to okultno i vjerojatno će ga pripisati Bogu (ili bogovima).
Isto tako je moguće da neke uobičajene stvari koje oni koriste, nama su nepoznate, pa zato nama te stvari ili događaji mogu biti okultni.

Farizejima je Isusovo djelovanje bilo okultno jer im je bilo nerazumljivo (jer u principu svaki posvećenik preporučuje šutnju i tajnost izvjesnih činjenica i radnji)


Kad bijaše nasamo, oni oko njega zajedno s dvanaestoricom pitahu ga o prispodobama.
I govoraše im: "Vama je dano otajstvo kraljevstva Božjega, a onima vani sve biva u prispodobama:

da gledaju, gledaju - i ne vide, slušaju, slušaju - i ne razumiju, da se ne obrate pa da im se otpusti." (Ev. po Marku 4:10-12)

Boldani tekst ima "okultno" (tajno) značenje, jer ovako, bez dubljeg znanja o pravom značenju boldani tekst nema smisla.


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sad kad znam što je okultno,najveći okultisti su poltičari i politika! 100%,, milsim nema se što objašnjavat ,barem, barem neznam koliko godina od oka 4589 godina !
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Wikipedijska definicija okultizma:

Okultizam (lat.: occultus, „skriven“, „tajan“) se tumači kao skriveno znanje nedostupno većini, dostupno samo pojedincima koji istražuju duhovnu stvarnost koja se nalazi van dosega osjetilnog opažanja. Metode koje se primjenjuju su proučavanje ezoteričnih spisa, meditacija; s ciljem dosezanja viših stupnjeva svijesti. Zbog svoje duhovne naravi, okultizam je usko povezan s religijom. Ravnopravan pojam je i ezoterija.

Okultizam je i vjerovanje u "okultne sile" i praksa "okultnih znanosti". Okultizam zastupa postojanje "fluida" putem kojih se nevidljivi svijet očituje u vidljivom, istražuje analogije i veze između vidljivog i nevidljivog, i odnos između bića i vidljivih pojava. Zalaže se za čuvanje tajnosti dogme i obreda. Okultizam u užem smislu podrazumijeva sva okultna umijeća i okultne znanosti.

Jednako tako, okultizam označava tajnu vještinu i proces spozanje više i nedokučive istine. Često se povezuje i nadopunjuje religijskim i filozofskim elementima poput gnosticizma, hermetizma, neoplatonizma, kabale, teleme i teozofije.

Među okultne znanosti općenito se ubrajaju alkemija, astrologija, magija, hermetizam, kabala i numerologija.

Ova pojam često se koristi i u negativnom smislu. Štetan utjecaj pripisuje se raznim pokretima i osobama koje se vezuju uz sam okultizam. Pokreti i pojave kao što su sotonizam, spiritizam, crna magija, crna misa, kao i pojedinci koji se bave ovim djelovanjima, opisuju se kao štetni, namijenjeni samo stjecanju osobne koristi; ili se jednostavno tako tumače zbog izvođenja tajnih nepoznatih obreda koje navodno zahtijevaju ljudske žrtve, prolijevanje krvi i slično.


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