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Nepročitano 19-11-14, 16:27   #141
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tesko mi priznat, ali da. hvala bogu i Gavrilu.
Gavril je stvorenje.. Bog je Stvoritelj.. Hvala Bogu za Gavrila.. Hvala Bogu za tebe.. Hvala Bogu za sve.


Uistinu, Bog je tako ljubio svijet te je dao svoga Sina Jedinorođenca da nijedan koji u njega vjeruje ne propadne, nego da ima život vječni.
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Samo da nije na nultom..
ostavio bi malo prostora. ziher je ziher.

i da, vjeru. ali vjeru u levitaciju, ili vjeru da je pod napravljen od pudinga.
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ostavio bi malo prostora. ziher je ziher.

i da, vjeru. ali vjeru u levitaciju, ili vjeru da je pod napravljen od pudinga.
zadnji put kada si bio na prvom nisi zazivao ni levitaciju ni puding..


Uistinu, Bog je tako ljubio svijet te je dao svoga Sina Jedinorođenca da nijedan koji u njega vjeruje ne propadne, nego da ima život vječni.
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zadnji put kada si bio na prvom nisi zazivao ni levitaciju ni puding..
touche.

evoluiram.
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touche.

evoluiram.
korak od Boga do pudinga ne zove se evolucija.. već devolucija..


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korak od Boga do pudinga ne zove se evolucija.. već devolucija..
bog zeli da se malo zabavim prije nego im se vratim?

ili jednostavno

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Nepročitano 19-11-14, 17:09   #147
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Ja u konačnici volim reći da ne znam i to je od svega jedino istina... prepuštanje, povjerenje, ljubav, poniznost, zahvalnost, nevezanost za svjetovno tek su za nanovorođenog vjernika (ne generaliziram, da se netko ne uvrijedi) sporedne vrijednosti vjere i za istinskog vjernika nisu prvotne jer njih nalazimo u svim religijama, tehnikama, praksama... Moje pitanje tko vodi čovjeka koji sluša svoje iskreno srce, tj živi ili nastoji živjeti zahvalnost, ljubav, oprost, poniznost odnosilo se na istinske, a ne lažne vrijednosti na koje se je Uoo osvrnuo. tako da se izvinjavam na nejasnom pitanju i stoga pretpostavljam takav odgovor.
Odgovor sa aspekta vjere koliko god tražila nisam dobila i uglavnom se izbjegava ili pak tvrdi da te vrijednosti nisu moguće, ako se ne spozna Isus... Tj to je nebitno, bitno je spasenje, a po meni je to vjera uvjetovana strahom. Kad sebe pitam i pokušam prihvatiti odbacivši um uvijek naiđem na zid i pitanje. zar je poniznost tvrditi i biti uvjeren baš u svoju Istinu, zar je poniznost biti uvjeren da si baš ti odabran, zar je poniznost tvrditi da su ostala srca lažna, a tvoje jedino čisto i kako uopće to prihvatiti... Prepuštanje sa povjerenjem je ljekovito i svakome ću dati podršku u njegovoj vjeri i opredjeljenju ako mu to donosi mir, zadovoljstvo, ako mu odagna strah, tjeskobu, bolest, oholost.... ali kad vjera vodi ka strahu, kad se svugdje vidi zlo, tih ljudi mi je uistinu žao... i sama sam se našla u tom razmišljanju i uhvatio bi me je strah od takvog razmišljanja. Evo pitanjce za iskrenog vjernika...karikiram, ali to pitanje mi je otvorilo oči u smislu kuda vodi "rigidno" prihvaćanje vjere.... Pročitala sam poruku od jedne prijateljice, da nakon što je službena medicina digla ruke od njezinog teško bolesnog djeteta, pomogla mu je alternativa... e sad pod nastojanjem da pokušam proniknuti što se krije iza "istinske vjere"i pod tim tekstovima, moja reakcija je bila uf to je djelo zla..... hvala Bogu istog momenta sam zastala i u srcu osjetim odgovor tvoje misli su zle... E sad konfuzna pokušala sam dobiti odgovor kako to doživljavaju istinski nanovorođeni vjernici, te postavila pitanje sebi i njima "da li se trebam moliti za poništenje tog iscjeljenja jer dolazi od zla" Naravno odgovori su bili zaobilazni uglavnom da pod nikoju cijenu oni ne bi išli tamo i sl jer valjda su ta pitanja i odgovori potisnuta jer bitna je vjera i spasenje ... Ali upravo se u tom slijepom tumačenju Biblije gubi put... i pitam se kako netko može biti siguran da nije obmanut u konačnici. Eto izvinjavam se nisam htjela razglabati na ovu temu jer sam shvatila da je besmisleno... ali nadam se da ćete mi oprostiti ovaj mali odušak
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bog zeli da se malo zabavim prije nego mu se vratim?

ili jednostavno

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srećom nema veće zabave i radosti od one u Njegovom zagrljaju

Što me dirnulo.. jer podsjeća me na moj povratak

Usta i pođe svom ocu. Dok je još bio daleko, njegov ga otac ugleda, ganu se, potrča, pade mu oko vrata i izljubi ga.
Luka 15:20

Cijela divna priča je tu.. od 11 stiha do 32.. meni uvjek napuni oči.. suz.. ermm.. slanom vodom.. jer sam muško
http://biblehub.com/cro/luke/15.htm


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srećom nema veće zabave i radosti od one u Njegovom zagrljaju

bog Otac/Muskarac je lazni bog, to sam siguran.
zato sam promijenio mu u im.
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koju bi to vrstu samopomoći primjenio, i na kojem katu brojivši od 30 prema nula?
U prizemlju,kada bi mi se razum uključio da ne idem glumit spidermana po zgradi.
A ako ti padas sa zgrade,niti cijela ergela bogova ti neće pomoći pri tvom intimnom susretu sa betonom.

Iako,kako sam prije rekao,iz svega se da isključiti,svaki ovaj zakon eliminirati,tao i gravitaciju.


Btw Klick jako interesantna stvar.
Mogao bis otvorit zasebnu temu o tome da se malo poblize analizira,od toga sto si i koliko koristio do tvog rjesenja nastalog problema.
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