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Iskreno nisam shvatila tvoj odgovor Ne znam banalnije da postavim .... a i od onih koji su spoznali Riječ u duhu istinski, svatko za drugoga kaže da je obmanut... tako da ostaje jedino spoznaja da svatko od nas u duhu može tumačiti Riječ... zašto bi
moje bilo ispravnije od tvoga ili tvoje od moga ?

Čitanje, razumjevanje i slaganje u cijelinu to se ipak jednim djelom vrši umom, a ljudski je um nesavršen, pa stoga i da je uistinu Riječ Božja istina tumačena ljudskim umom postaje nesavršeno tumačena.... a da svi za sebe tvrde da su privilegirani u vodstvu Duha i opet dolazimo do igre ega tko je u pravu/krivu :)
Ako je ovo ono na što tražiš odgovor, onda ću ti ponoviti da su tvoje premise potpuno promašene.

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a i od onih koji su spoznali Riječ u duhu istinski, svatko za drugoga kaže da je obmanut...
neznam odakle ti ova informacija? moje konkretno iskustvo je potpuno suprotno.. među novorođenima u Duhu Svetome sve je veoma jasno..


Pričaš li o ljudima koji se bave religioznošću u svojoj snazi, onda to naravno ne vrijedi, jer se na duševno/tjelesnom nivou love u koštac sa onime što može čovjeku biti otkriveno samo istinskim novorođenjem u Duhu Svetome. A Roditi se u Duhu Svetome možemo samo ako tu milost primimo od Najvišega.


Istina je da postoje mnoge doktrinalne razlike među religijama, no u Kristu, Riječi Božjoj, Duhu Svetome to nije slučaj. Jedan je Bog. Jedan je Krist. Jedna je Riječ. Tijelo Kristovo obavlja različite funkcije, no Glava je jedna.. Krist.



Dakle zapitaj se.. jesi li zbunjena što znači biti Novorođen u Duhu, pa misliš da među takvima postoje nesuglasice zato jer puno toga različitoga što to zapravo nije trpaš pod "novorođen u duhu", i zato ne možeš dobiti svoj odgovor?


Postoje oni koji sebe podređuju Bogu, i oni koji misle da mogu Boga podrediti sebi. Tko se podredio Bogu podredio se i Njegovoj Riječi. Bez pokajanja i poniznosti pred Bogom, zahvalnosti za Spasenje i Život koji nam je darovao doista što tko misli primiti od Boga?


Još jednom ponavljam.. duševno/tjelesnim možeš ići do određene granice, a onda je vrijeme da se prebaciš na yogu, kikiriki, ili se doista u poniznosti posvetiš istinskome pokajanju, obraćenju ka Kristu, molitvi, Riječi Božjoj, odbacivanju i odricanju ponosa, duha od ovoga svijeta i primanju Duha Svetoga, obnavljanju uma.
Bez istinskoga posvećenja i iskrenoga srca spram Boga ne možeš biti posvećena Božjim Duhom..

Taj dio, iskreni vapaj prema Bogu, vjernost Bogu, ljubav prema Bogu i povjerenje u Njega i Njegovu Riječ nitko ne može odraditi za tebe. Ako to nemaš moli za milost da to primiš.

Dok to ne učiniš ostati ćeš dezorjentirana u mraku relativnosti ovoga svijeta, bez tla pod nogama, bez Istine, jer ćeš i dalje postavljati fundamentalna pitanja bez istinskoga od Boga dana razumijevanja o onome što pitaš. Cirkularno mješajući duhovnost, duševnost i tjelesnost.

Ali neka ište s vjerom, bez ikakva kolebanja. Jer kolebljivac je sličan morskom valovlju, uzburkanu i gonjenu. Neka takav ne misli da će primiti što od Gospodina čovjek duše dvoumne, nepostojan na svim putovima svojim. (Jakov 1:6-8)



Uistinu, Bog je tako ljubio svijet te je dao svoga Sina Jedinorođenca da nijedan koji u njega vjeruje ne propadne, nego da ima život vječni.
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kakvu ulogu ima decepcija o vanzemaljcima sa ujedinjenjem svijeta u jednu globalnu religiju za vladavinu antikrista u novom svjetskom poretku?


Uistinu, Bog je tako ljubio svijet te je dao svoga Sina Jedinorođenca da nijedan koji u njega vjeruje ne propadne, nego da ima život vječni.
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Ako je ovo ono na što tražiš odgovor, onda ću ti ponoviti da su tvoje premise potpuno promašene.



neznam odakle ti ova informacija? moje konkretno iskustvo je potpuno suprotno.. među novorođenima u Duhu Svetome sve je veoma jasno..


Pričaš li o ljudima koji se bave religioznošću u svojoj snazi, onda to naravno ne vrijedi, jer se na duševno/tjelesnom nivou love u koštac sa onime što može čovjeku biti otkriveno samo istinskim novorođenjem u Duhu Svetome. A Roditi se u Duhu Svetome možemo samo ako tu milost primimo od Najvišega.


Istina je da postoje mnoge doktrinalne razlike među religijama, no u Kristu, Riječi Božjoj, Duhu Svetome to nije slučaj. Jedan je Bog. Jedan je Krist. Jedna je Riječ. Tijelo Kristovo obavlja različite funkcije, no Glava je jedna.. Krist.



Dakle zapitaj se.. jesi li zbunjena što znači biti Novorođen u Duhu, pa misliš da među takvima postoje nesuglasice zato jer puno toga različitoga što to zapravo nije trpaš pod "novorođen u duhu", i zato ne možeš dobiti svoj odgovor?


Postoje oni koji sebe podređuju Bogu, i oni koji misle da mogu Boga podrediti sebi. Tko se podredio Bogu podredio se i Njegovoj Riječi. Bez pokajanja i poniznosti pred Bogom, zahvalnosti za Spasenje i Život koji nam je darovao doista što tko misli primiti od Boga?


Još jednom ponavljam.. duševno/tjelesnim možeš ići do određene granice, a onda je vrijeme da se prebaciš na yogu, kikiriki, ili se doista u poniznosti posvetiš istinskome pokajanju, obraćenju ka Kristu, molitvi, Riječi Božjoj, odbacivanju i odricanju ponosa, duha od ovoga svijeta i primanju Duha Svetoga, obnavljanju uma.
Bez istinskoga posvećenja i iskrenoga srca spram Boga ne možeš biti posvećena Božjim Duhom..

Taj dio, iskreni vapaj prema Bogu, vjernost Bogu, ljubav prema Bogu i povjerenje u Njega i Njegovu Riječ nitko ne može odraditi za tebe. Ako to nemaš moli za milost da to primiš.

Dok to ne učiniš ostati ćeš dezorjentirana u mraku relativnosti ovoga svijeta, bez tla pod nogama, bez Istine, jer ćeš i dalje postavljati fundamentalna pitanja bez istinskoga od Boga dana razumijevanja o onome što pitaš. Cirkularno mješajući duhovnost, duševnost i tjelesnost.

Ali neka ište s vjerom, bez ikakva kolebanja. Jer kolebljivac je sličan morskom valovlju, uzburkanu i gonjenu. Neka takav ne misli da će primiti što od Gospodina čovjek duše dvoumne, nepostojan na svim putovima svojim. (Jakov 1:6-8)


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Jer se stablo prepoznaje po plodovima, 10 zapovjedi... A takoder znam da je samo Biblija objava bozja, jasno duhovno iskustvo. Bez brige, nisam kanalizirao nikakve entitete.
On zna.



Kada se netko postavi da nešto "sa sigurnošću zna" to nije pravo istinsko znanje,to je ego.

Otkuda ti to znaš,a recimo MolderCuker nezna?
Dal sebe smatras duhovno naprednijim od njega?
Otkuda uvjerenje da je tvoje znanje bolje,istinitije od njegovog?

Ja osobno puno toga nadrobim na ovaj forum,svjestan toga da je možda i sve krivo ili bar polovično krivo.
Ali da bi sad tvrdio da sam u svemu u pravu i da ja znam a niko drugi nista nezna bi bio dan kad bi sve ono za sto se zalazem nestalo.

Baš je očito da jedan čovjek,sa svim sumnjama,ograničenjima,nagonima,programima i ostalim,kad tvrdi da je spoznao pravu istinu je zapravo najdalje od nje.
Možemo samo bit fleksibilni,tako da kad jednom pocinje nadirat ta neodoljiva snaga nase prave moći,da budemo spremni,umno,fizicki i mentalno,prihvatiti ju i dijeliti ju s drugima.
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Ne, ali mu vjerujem, jer se ne bi tek tako otkinuo kandzi sotone, da ga nije nesto pozitivno potaklo. A znam da govori o pravom bogu.
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Ne, ali mu vjerujem, jer se ne bi tek tako otkinuo kandzi sotone, da ga nije nesto pozitivno potaklo. A znam da govori o pravom bogu.
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