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Nepročitano 05-02-14, 13:51   #141
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Mi i čimpanze imamo oko 98% zajedničkih gena.
Genetski modifinirana rajčica se od obične razlikuje za nekih 20-tak % gena. Ispada da je ovima za stvorit novo biće dovoljno nekih 2% razlike u genima, dok genetičarima za dobit rajčicu koja će sporije propadat treba puno više. Nekako mi je tanka habla.
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Mi i čimpanze imamo oko 98% zajedničkih gena.
Genetski modifinirana rajčica se od obične razlikuje za nekih 20-tak % gena. Ispada da je ovima za stvorit novo biće dovoljno nekih 2% razlike u genima, dok genetičarima za dobit rajčicu koja će sporije propadat treba puno više. Nekako mi je tanka habla.
Samo sad ćemo seuhvatit genetike, a post je usmjeren ka opasnostima duhovne prakse...
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A sad mala primjedba vezana za tijek rasprave:
zove otac sina sa pečalbe u Frankfurtu kući u Vrgorac:
- Pa sine, šta ovo piše u Algemaine, di to doli ide?
- A moj Ćaća, ide... ide sve u of topic.
a kako to baš u Vrgorac, zove?
Vrgorac je centar svita, Tin je rođen u njemu.....

Osim toga, put je to zavijeni, prema Međugorju....u pravi kult Marije, naše Bogorodice.......vječne Djevice....


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Sve to stoji, samo...
Mi i čimpanze imamo oko 98% zajedničkih gena.
Genetski modifinirana rajčica se od obične razlikuje za nekih 20-tak % gena. Ispada da je ovima za stvorit novo biće dovoljno nekih 2% razlike u genima, dok genetičarima za dobit rajčicu koja će sporije propadat treba puno više. Nekako mi je tanka habla.
Samo sad ćemo seuhvatit genetike, a post je usmjeren ka opasnostima duhovne prakse...
Ih, pa kad mi nemamo ta znanja niti inštrumentarij!

Uostalom - onoga kromanjonca i nije trebalo puno doraditi do većine današnjih politič ... ekhm ljudi.


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Nepročitano 05-02-14, 15:27   #145
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Iako nisam siguran koliko su pouzdani i smisleni ti postoci (kontam da je to vise ilustrativno) sav zivi svijet je geneticki srodan (sto je vjerojatno najdefinitivniji argument evolucije), mi i sa obicnim bakterijama djelimo, kazu, 90%.

Sto tocno znaci da je razlika u 20% gena? Kako se dobivaju ti postoci, tko ih je iznio?


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Nepročitano 05-02-14, 15:37   #146
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Izvorno se spominje Elohim (hebrejski), što je množina: bogovi, a ne Bog. (Iako se o tome spori u religijskim krugovima - što je i očekivano)

Smatra se da se radi o našim kreatorima koji su nas genetski dorađivali u laboratoriju (otuda kult žene, majke - glavna liječnica i znanstvenica bila je žena) a stigli su od tko zna kuda (iz svemira) - posijali sjeme, nastojali nas izrabiti koliko su mogli u rudnicima zlata i otišli kad smo se pobunili (bilo ih je oko 200) a posebno nakon potopa. Otuda razne etničke rase, ovisno o mixu, jer su kao osnovu uzeli tog nekakvog kromanjonca/pračovjeka koji je u to vrijeme s toljagom bauljao po zemlji i pomiješali s vlastitom DNK, eh - ali kao kod svakog hibrida, nije se mogao sam razmnožavati (priča o istočnom grijehu). To je ona priča o miješanju Nefila i ljudskih kćeri i svaštanešto ... dugačka je to priča, možda ovako u tri riječi može zvučati naivno, ali treba pročitati malo detaljnije o tome - Sitchin govori o njima a ima i drugih materijala.

Elohim is "those who comes from the sky."
The Elohim have periodically contacted humans and made them prophets in order to communicate their wishes and teach the fledgling human race. Such prophets include major religious leaders such as Mohammad, Jesus, Moses and Buddha.

The Elohim do not interfere or communicate with humanity on a day-today basis. Only prophets communicate with the Elohim at all. They are not gods, but rather simply technologically advanced beings very similar to us.

Osobno, meni se mnogo toga objasnilo i sjelo na mjesto s tim tumačnjem koje mi je sasvim logično.

No, to nema veze s Bogom - jednim jedinim, čija su i oni isto tako kreacija.

Sitchin je bio dezinformator..

Želiš li pogledati nekoga sa stvarnim doktoratom Hebrejske Biblije i Semitskih jezika istraži Michael Heisera.. tada će ti biti jasno koliko je Sitchin iskrivio tekstove i nauk.. sretno


Uistinu, Bog je tako ljubio svijet te je dao svoga Sina Jedinorođenca da nijedan koji u njega vjeruje ne propadne, nego da ima život vječni.
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Ps.. Sitchin je također bio visoko rangirani mason.. dakle sotonist.. stoga nije ni čudo kakvu verziju priče je ljudima ponudio iskrivljavajući nauk..


Uistinu, Bog je tako ljubio svijet te je dao svoga Sina Jedinorođenca da nijedan koji u njega vjeruje ne propadne, nego da ima život vječni.
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ccc. Sichin svakako lupeta, nema spora. Da li je mason ne znam, na ocnovu cega tvrdis? Bez obzira na to masoni svakako nisu sotonisti.

AKo vec kritiziras Sicina zbog zavjerolupetanja nema smisla biti na jednakoj neutemeljeno-zavjeraskoj valnoj liniji, samo uz promjenu predznaka, pa stvarati zavjere o zavjerama i dodatno zamucivati mutnu vodu.


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Ps.. Sitchin je također bio visoko rangirani mason.. dakle sotonist.. stoga nije ni čudo kakvu verziju priče je ljudima ponudio iskrivljavajući nauk..
Čula sam i to ... tko zna?

U svakom slučaju, ja ti sve uzimam "cum grano salis" - ako i jest mason, ne znači da mu je istina strana i vjerojatno je činio kao i svi drugi prije i poslije njega: sloj laži, sloj istine.

Ono što ja radim kad čitam i proučavam i istražujem, da sam (svjesna te činjenice) uvijek na oprezu i da sve filtriram i kroz neko svoje promišljanje, zaključivanje i predznanje i da istražim najveći mogući broj izvora na neku temu.

Neke se stvari provlače kroz mnoge izvore i autore najrazličitije provenijencije, tako da ... no, svakako - uvijek kažem da ni u što nisam sigurna niti mogu biti. A to vriijedi jednako za sve ljude.

Slušala sam Heisera ... ne drži mi vodu baš sve što priča (ponekad mi se čak čini kao da nije dobro pročitao Sitchina). Ne smatram ga zlonamjernim debunkerom, ali naprosto ... možda nema uvid ... ista je stvar sa suvremenom znanošću.


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ccc. Sichin svakako lupeta, nema spora. Da li je mason ne znam, na ocnovu cega tvrdis? Bez obzira na to masoni svakako nisu sotonisti.
A gle, nemoj ni ti ići u drugu krajnost. Možda dio jest lupetanja, ali dio je vrlo logičan i ima itekakvih osnova. Nije ni on lud da sve izmisli - u tom slučaju se laž ne može sakriti.


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