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Secam se da sam za saku sitnisa mogao kupiti desetak sladoleda, pa ih staviti u friz i jesti ceo dan.. danas mi za to treba cela dnevnica...
Isto pamtim da nije bilo cokolada, vec secernih tabli, ali meni su bile ukusnije nego milke ili krasevi......
bio sam klinac, uzivao citajuci stripove, igrajuci igrice (one male lcd, ako se neko seca) i zive bez ikakvih ideja da dolazi ono sto je doslo.......(ne znam koji smajli da stavim)




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Moldere moj, nije bilo komunizma, vec socijalizma, ipak nije isto.
Imam 41. g. pred kraj juge bio sam tinejdzer, i pamtim samo osamdesete, i najbolju muziku (po meni).
Secam se da sam za saku sitnisa mogao kupiti desetak sladoleda, pa ih staviti u friz i jesti ceo dan.. danas mi za to treba cela dnevnica...
Isto pamtim da nije bilo cokolada, vec secernih tabli, ali meni su bile ukusnije nego milke ili krasevi......
bio sam klinac, uzivao citajuci stripove, igrajuci igrice (one male lcd, ako se neko seca) i zive bez ikakvih ideja da dolazi ono sto je doslo.......(ne znam koji smajli da stavim)
a sada je tako kako je......... iz mojeg razreda u osnovnoj skoli, a bilo nas je 30, samo nekoliko je ostalo da zivi u beogradu...... a dece ima duplo manje, parkici su pusti, mada je i vreme drugacije (telefoni, internet, i sve ostalo).
NEmam pojma sta je jugo nostalgija, niti komunizam, znam samo da sam bio srecam, mlad i uzivao u zivotu....... meni nije trebalo vise tada.
Sada mladi (ne smatram se starim) ne zale nizacim ranije, zele samo sto pre da "zapale" u inostranstvo. preko bare, i bas ih briga za proslost
U demokraciji je socijalizam onemogucen, znaci nije moguce da socijalizam moze bit u demokraciji. Uostalom Jugoslavija je bila sigurno liberalnija od demokracije. Zapravo je bila doslovno ono za sto denokrati govore da je demokracija, a demokracija je cisti fasizam(oduvjek najveci ndprijatelj komunizmu, slobodi i miru) sto uopce nije upitno. A moze meni lucero jesam i ostali pricat da su duhovno prevazisli to demokratsko sranje, ali i dalje podrzavaju to za sto kazu da je ispod njihove razine. Uostalom njima je sve kao "ravno" al kad im jednom zagusti slomit ce se samo tako, kad shvate da nije svjet ono sto su si zamislili. Dok se npr. Ja koji se ne dicim svojom duhovnom visinom necu slomit, nego cu pretrpjet

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Ako cemo realno, nadjem ti ja u svakoj crkvi ili gdje god hoces neku simboliku sotonisticku, samo primjecuju ljudi neke oblike, pa to povezuju sa sotonizmom, iluminati, masoni i sl. Izmisljotine

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Pa zapad se razvijo prodavajuci pricu nama da je komunizam zlo. U komunizmu su ljudi bili prisiljeni bit dobri i posteni. Gdje ide sav novac iz ex YU drzava??? Ide tamo onima koji su se izdigli iz pepela tako brzo, zahvaljujuci pljackanju komunista, mislis da kad kazu one milijarde eura od turizma da smo to mi zaradili ili oni koji su se uzdigli iz pepela.
E pa dragi Molderu, nije tako - u "komunizmu" su se naučili krasti i varati i ne raditi ništa - jer su mogli tako raditi i zato jer je sustav podržavao nerad, sve dok si bio na partijskoj liniji. Ne pričaj stvari o kojima pojma nemaš jer ti je tako ispričao netko tko je tada radio upravo to što sam sad opisala pa je jasno da mu je bilo dobro. Pošten narod je patio a mnogi su otišli van - isto kao i danas.

A to je još mila majka kako je bilo u zaista komunističkoj Rusiji. Gulazi i Sibir. Masovni pokolji.

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Nije ubijen ni mucen nitko tko nije prijetio miru i slobodi. Oni koji su uspjeli pobjec su financirali nemir odnosno rat na nasim prostorima, nije udba ubijala van granica zato sto im je tako doslo, vec zato sto su slali propagandu da je komunizam to kakvim ga zapad prikazuje.
Ti baš testiraš moje strpljenje. Daj se informiraj prije nego kreneš lupetati!!! NE ZNAŠ, NEMAŠ POJMA o pojmu i još si dovoljno drzak da tvrdiš nešto o čemu nemaš blage veze. Oprosti, ali nemam drugih riječi za takvo ponašanje. Poričeš ono što je danas opće poznato i činjenično i dokazano, koga ti zahebavaš i zašto?

Sad najednom je svima bilo super u Jugi a kratka je pamet i sjećanje ...

I da te preduhitrim - to nema nikakve veze s tim da li je danas dobro ili nije. Danas je isto loše - iz istog razloga koji sam navela u postu iznad! Jer je sve to isti lopovluk pod drugim nazivom!

Dapače - onaj je barem bio otvoreno represivan. Danas se prodaje priča o navodnoj slobodi i demokraciji a ni od slobode ni od demokracije nema ništa. Laži i samo laži - a ljudi ko da su sve gluplji i tuplji!

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Ovo je za naslov teme!

Ali............ poenta i jeste u tome, mnogi se nisu slomili, nego su trpeli.. i istrpeli... i jos uvek trpe....

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E pa dragi Molderu, nije tako - u "komunizmu" su se naučili krasti i varati i ne raditi ništa - jer su mogli tako raditi i zato jer je sustav podržavao nerad, sve dok si bio na partijskoj liniji. Ne pričaj stvari o kojima pojma nemaš jer ti je tako ispričao netko tko je tada radio upravo to što sam sad opisala pa je jasno da mu je bilo dobro. Pošten narod je patio a mnogi su otišli van - isto kao i danas.

A to je još mila majka kako je bilo u zaista komunističkoj Rusiji. Gulazi i Sibir. Masovni pokolji.



Ti baš testiraš moje strpljenje. Daj se informiraj prije nego kreneš lupetati!!! NE ZNAŠ, NEMAŠ POJMA o pojmu i još si dovoljno drzak da tvrdiš nešto o čemu nemaš blage veze. Oprosti, ali nemam drugih riječi za takvo ponašanje. Poričeš ono što je danas opće poznato i činjenično i dokazano, koga ti zahebavaš i zašto?
Pa mislim da sam ja tu kao vjerovatno najmladji najkompetentniji da to mogu govorit, jer nisam bio pod utjecajem tita, a ni tudjmana, tako da te nacisticke mantre mozes spominjat svojim vrsnjacima, jerbo ja sam cuo i jednu i drugu stranu i zakljucio da je sad gote nego je bilo, bez da sam bio izlozen propagandama obje strane. Ja znam da neki imaju neporavnatih racuna sa komunistima, ali nisu oni ti koji su se zamjerali fasistima.
Objasni mi jos zasto se u Hrvatskoj slavi dan antifasisticke borbe i zasto je to praznik, ako je to Hrvatski poraz bio i napokon je uspostavljen komunizam i sad se odjednom nepobijeni od strane Jugoslavije uzdizu i ponovno je uspostavljena fasisticka forma drzave. Mogla se Hrvatska odvojit i ostat komunisticka, a to znaci i samostalna. Znaci ne mozes mi rec ni da je samostalna ni da je mirotvorna, vec podrzava terorizam samim ulaskom u EU i NATO odnosno fasisticko teroristicke medjunarodne zajednice. Cinjenica je da je Tito bio velik covjek, veci od bilokog svetca, samo se to ne prepoznaje jer nema fasizam koristi od tog. Svima je bio dobar dok nisu dosli ustase na vlast i poceli sirit propagandu protiv njega, da mu umanje vrijednost kako bi ga lakse dostigli.
Pa sirili da je on rus neki da baba rekla da pravi tito nije imo neki prst ovo ono, a u glasu mu mozes prepoznat da je zagorac, al' nemozes ti to znat jer ne primjecujes neke stvari nego samo ko je sto reko, napiso i bla bla... nema smisla raspravljat jer imas nek neporavnat racun s tim sto znaci da ne mozes racionalno procjenit

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