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Nepročitano 15-01-14, 21:16   #11
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Davno sam čitala tu pjesmu,ali dobro je da je još mnogi pročitaju....Jesam,jako ste kategorični u odgovoru,očekivala sam da bi djeca bar trebala ostati u korektnoj vezi s roditeljima,ako ne i punoj poštovanja,a dijeca trebaju imati slobodu strijele bez ikakve zadrške,dapače,uvijek.
Kod zdravih odnosa to će svakako biti slučaj. Ako je komunikacije tijekom života bila zdrava, ako su osnove, temelji odnosa zdravi - onda nema razloga da tako ne bude, osim ako se uistinu radi o karmičkim razlozima. No, i to će onaj tko razumije, prihvatiti - bez prosuđivanja i osuđivanja.


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A koji su to karmički razlozi? Da je tako kako je, da je tako trebalo biti,,,,,?????? Sudbina...? Ljudi su skloni ono što ne razumiju etiketirati kao sudbinsko......
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Zbilja kako znati jeli to karmičko,a pogotovo biti siguran?Dogodilo se preko noći,kad je upoznao djevojku,kratko vrijeme imala je svađe i stalno omalovažavanje s njegove strane,kad je podigla glas, odmah je bilo gotovo,a ona nikad valjda neće moći do kraja prihvatiti jer je do tada sve bilo idealno(ni tada nisu živjeli zajedno).Šta je to regresija i kako znati.Nije mi jasno kako netko može"podići takav zid" i zazidati 28g života zauvijek
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A koji su to karmički razlozi? Da je tako kako je, da je tako trebalo biti,,,,,?????? Sudbina...? Ljudi su skloni ono što ne razumiju etiketirati kao sudbinsko......
Pa i meni je to zapravo manje vjerojatno i uvijek prihvaćam s rezervom i tek ako odbacim sve druge mogućnosti. Ali svakako, moguće je da mnogo puta ne istražimo dovoljno, nego automatski nalijepimo etiketu karmičkog.

Vjerujem da uistinu ima nekih karmičkih odnosa (ako ćemo se ravnati po mnogim gnosticima ali i praktičarima poput Lazareva i Ogorevca a i sama imam neke prilično nedvosmislene primjere), no, kako sam napisala - ni to nije razlog za neku muku i dramu.


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Zbilja kako znati jeli to karmičko,a pogotovo biti siguran?Dogodilo se preko noći,kad je upoznao djevojku,kratko vrijeme imala je svađe i stalno omalovažavanje s njegove strane,kad je podigla glas, odmah je bilo gotovo,a ona nikad valjda neće moći do kraja prihvatiti jer je do tada sve bilo idealno(ni tada nisu živjeli zajedno).Šta je to regresija i kako znati.Nije mi jasno kako netko može"podići takav zid" i zazidati 28g života zauvijek
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Vjerujem da uistinu ima nekih karmičkih odnosa (ako ćemo se ravnati po mnogim gnosticima ali i praktičarima poput Lazareva i Ogorevca a i sama imam neke prilično nedvosmislene primjere), no, kako sam napisala - ni to nije razlog za neku muku i dramu.
Pa svi odnosi su karmički.........i što ćemo sad?
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Pa svi odnosi su karmički.........i što ćemo sad?
Nista, jer ako neki odnosi medju odraslim osobama nemogu da se srede ni posle 20 godina i vise i ako osobe ne mogu da podnesu boravak u istoj prostoriji ni pet minuta ,i postoji nepodnosljivost medju njima,onda treba ostaviti ljude na miru ,pogotovo ako ne traze niciju pomoc.Zato sam pomenula karmu.


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Nista, jer ako neki odnosi medju odraslim osobama nemogu da se srede ni posle 20 godina i vise i ako osobe ne mogu da podnesu boravak u istoj prostoriji ni pet minuta ,i postoji nepodnosljivost medju njima,onda treba ostaviti ljude na miru ,pogotovo ako ne traze niciju pomoc.Zato sam pomenula karmu.
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Taj slucaj kod Marni, je sigurno viseslojan : neznamo sta je to sto je bilo okidac za podizanje zida....devojka koja se nije dopala majci?....ili majka koja se nije dopala devojci?....ili obostrano? Neznamo kakvi su to i po cijem merilu, bili idealni odnosi?....i zasto je majka podigla glas?
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Poli,Poaro,super si!Ma naime,mislim da je to dijete odradilo svoje(karma),ali roditelji imaju još previše osjećaja,to je valjda njihova karma.Majka je počela biti podcjenjivana,zato se pobunila,piši kako se to kod tebe rješilo,ako je?
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