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Nepročitano 12-02-12, 23:06   #101
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Hi!

@ networker, ajde da si ne gubimo vrijeme...

idući puta kada kupiš smolu, traži papire sa specifikacijom proizvoda...

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Nepročitano 12-02-12, 23:12   #102
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a evo ti još jedna za laku noć:

Poliesterske smole uglavnom su preubrzane i zahtijevaju samo dodavanje MEKP (metil keton peroksid). Normalno je da se dodaje između 1 i 2% po težini. Za svakih 1000g smole 1% od toga znači 10g katalizatora (=cca 10ml). Mjeri se pomoću dozatora za katalizator...

Poliesterske smole sadrže oko 35% monomer stirena...

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za izradu medaljona se preporučaju katalizatori bez ftalata, samo ih kod nas, nažalost nema...
............ znaš li možda gdje se onda smole s takvim katalizatorima mogu nabaviti ........... tko ih proizvodi .........
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SMOLA sadrži u sebi stiren već kada ju kupiš...on služi smanjenju viskoznosti, i zato je eko-poliester s kojim radim više tekući, nego onaj iz Hempela, jer SMOLA ima manje stirena u sebi...zato jeste eko (50% manja emisija stirena), i zato znam razliku između njih, jer sam radio s obadvije...i radim sa poliester smolom već 3god
ajd razmisli malo sta si reko XD
reko si da stiren sluzi smanjenju viskoznosti, da ga ekopoliester nema puno pa da je zato tekuci.
netocno.

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viskoznost je jednaka gustoci. sto je veca gustoca veca je i viskoznost. ako stiren smanjuje viskoznost znaci da razrijedjuje tekucinu. XD
dakle taj tvoj ekopoliester ukoliko je rjedji onda ima vise stirena od obicnog


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viskoznost je jednaka gustoci. sto je veca gustoca veca je i viskoznost.

....ovo ti baš i ne stoji ..... viskoznost nije jednaka gustoći ...... to što ulje teže nego vodu izlijevaš iz boce jer ima veću viskoznost ne znači da ima i veću gustoću ..... ulje ima manju gustoću od vode ...... pa eto pliva na vodi ....
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....ovo ti baš i ne stoji ..... viskoznost nije jednaka gustoći ...... to što ulje teže nego vodu izlijevaš iz boce jer ima veću viskoznost ne znači da ima i veću gustoću ..... ulje ima manju gustoću od vode ...... pa eto pliva na vodi ....
imas i ulja koja su nesto gusca od vode...
no ugl dobro si me ispravila, mislio sam na gustinu smjese, tj koliko je nesto gusto, ljepljivo. fred je reko da dodatkom stirena smola postane manje viskozna, dakle pruza manji otpor i time postane razrijeđenija. i onda kaze da je ekopoliester razrijeđeniji od ostalih poliestera jer ima malo stirena. malo je nelogicno


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i onda kaze da je ekopoliester razrijeđeniji od ostalih poliestera jer ima malo stirena. malo je nelogicno


u pravu si Blind...jeste nelogično...s obzirom da je jučer bio dan kada me se na više tema pokušavalo ubijediti u neke stvari koje ne stoje, dogodilo mi se da pogriješim usljed umora i rasprave s napornim ljudima

satro sam se od pokušaja da objasnim čovjeku gdje je stiren a gdje su ftalati, a ti si se ulovio samo za tu rečenicu, umjesto da podržiš ili čovjeku objasniš

zato nemam običaj raspravljati se pred spavanje...

što si mi ukazao na grešku, nadam se da nije izbila zbog te jedne rečenice katastrofa, i da si sada sretan

eko poliester svejedno ima manje stirena u sebi (do 50%)...zato jeste eko, jer ne truje toliko sredinu, i emisija stirena je manja tijekom polimerizacije...tako su mi objasnili u dućanu...

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ne treba ti druga smola, samo ovaj katalizator uz nju

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ne treba ti druga smola, samo ovaj katalizator uz nju

http://www.kerox.org/webkx/Complianc...-phf-60509.asp
"Manufacturers of products using unsaturated polyester resins will be able to exclude any contribution to phthalates originating from MEKP, by using Kerox MEKP-PHF-60509 in their process."

eh, da mi je još ovaj katalizator uz eko poliester

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ma ne sve ok...doslo je do pogreske na koju sam eto morao ukazati jer nisam jedini koji ovo cita. netko bi mogao pogresno izneseno shvatiti. zato treba paziti sta se govori.
a u vasu svadju necu ulaziti :-)


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