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Nepročitano 09-02-11, 13:22   #71
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Puno ti hvala na trudu, ali nisi mi pomogo.

Ne bi potezala to pitanje da nisam obišla SVE dučane u Čk i Vž filter K2 180kn... to je ludo!!!!!

Osim toga prodavači NEMAJU BLAGOGA POJMA koji zaštitni faktor mi treba za poli ili epoksi smolu luuuuudo!


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I još nešto konkretno -

koju f - - - - king smolu koristite za ovakve lijepe orgonitiće, koliko vas god čitala i ponavljala gradivo (stvarno sve), još uvjek mi nije jasno koja ja NAJ?


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Puno ti hvala na trudu, ali nisi mi pomogo.

Ne bi potezala to pitanje da nisam obišla SVE dučane u Čk i Vž filter K2 180kn... to je ludo!!!!!

Osim toga prodavači NEMAJU BLAGOGA POJMA koji zaštitni faktor mi treba za poli ili epoksi smolu luuuuudo!
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I još nešto konkretno -

koju f - - - - king smolu koristite za ovakve lijepe orgonitiće, koliko vas god čitala i ponavljala gradivo (stvarno sve), još uvjek mi nije jasno koja ja NAJ?
nemas najbolju...svaka ima svoje prednosti i manjke u odnosu na drugu

- poliesterska je jeftina (30ak/l) i jace stisne kristal (piezoelektricni efekat), ruznije izgleda od epoksija i manje je otporna na udarce, otrovna isparenja

- epoksi je visestruko skuplji od polistera, manji je pritisak na kristale ako ga uopce ima, lijepo izgleda, visoka otpornost i trajnost, mislim da su i tu otrovna isparenja

- kolofonija je prirodna smola - ekoloska, samo je problem topljenja na vatri pri cemu se stvara dim (slicno kao sa secerom)

- bilo je price o najidealnijoj smoli - propolisu ali neisplativo je jer 1kg=800kn


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jesi li vec probao napraviti koji od kolofonije? je li isto problem kao sa secerom sto se odmah u roku par sekundi pocme stvrdnjavati?


“Ne vjeruj zato što je to mudrac rekao, ne vjeruj zato što je to uobičajeno mišljenje, ne vjeruj zato što je to zapisano, ne vjeruj zato što netko drugi to vjeruje, nego prosudi istinu i nakon što ju pažljivo ispitaš i raščlaniš i uvidiš da će svima činiti dobro, živi u skladu s njom i pomozi drugima da čine isto. – Buda



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jesi li vec probao napraviti koji od kolofonije? je li isto problem kao sa secerom sto se odmah u roku par sekundi pocme stvrdnjavati?
naravno , ništa se ne stvrdnjava jer zagrijem i špenu a kolofonij topim u posudi sa čeličnim dnom od 10 mm na končarevom rešou sa termostatom (između 3-4)

ništa se čak ni ne zadimi
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naravno , ništa se ne stvrdnjava jer zagrijem i špenu a kolofonij topim u posudi sa čeličnim dnom od 10 mm na končarevom rešou sa termostatom (između 3-4)

ništa se čak ni ne zadimi
pametno je to sa grijanjem špene. a mogo bi se i ja bacit na tu kolofoniju kad ju svi tako hvalite da vidim u cemu je stvar :D


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@alison, neki dan sam kupio prvu profi masku za rad sa smolama...300kn sveukupno

što se smole tiče, sve ovisi za što ćeš koristiti orgonit...medaljone i one koji su često u dodiru sa kožom (kao recimo, oni koji su u grudnjaku :), radim od epoksija...

veće odljevke radim od poliestera (otporniji na udarce od kolofonije) i kolofonije...kolofonija mi je odlična, zato što mogu raditi doma s njom i što je stvrdnuta za cca 20tak min. nakon lijevanja...

@ulan bator, kolofonija ide van i to bez problema iz silikonskih i gumenih kalupa

ako koristiš lijepe kalupe od keramike, stakla ili drveta, onda nema ni potrebe vaditi odljevak van...

p.s. kaj ti ne popuca kolofonija u zamrzivaču?

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Meni "šećeraši" nisu nešto bogznašto.
Napravila sam dva od čistog šečera, bez miješanja s vodom. Vjerujem da su bolja opcija u odnosu na plastike ako ih se ostavi u staklenki, ali bez staklenke, tj. van kalupa su podložni temperaturi i cijelo vrijeme "žive".
Bili su mi ljepljivi kad bih ih primila, pa sam ih premazala akrilnim ljepilom. Ljepilo je popucalo (vjerojatno zato što se šečer skuplja i širi, ovisno o temperaturi) i nisu baš reprezentativni...

Nemoguće ih je izvaditi iz kalupa ako se ne stave nakratko u škrinju, pa nakratko pod vruću vodu i imaju rupice po sebi jer je zrak u karamelu neizbježan.
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Meni "šećeraši" nisu nešto bogznašto.
Napravila sam dva od čistog šečera, bez miješanja s vodom. Vjerujem da su bolja opcija u odnosu na plastike ako ih se ostavi u staklenki, ali bez staklenke, tj. van kalupa su podložni temperaturi i cijelo vrijeme "žive".
Bili su mi ljepljivi kad bih ih primila, pa sam ih premazala akrilnim ljepilom. Ljepilo je popucalo (vjerojatno zato što se šečer skuplja i širi, ovisno o temperaturi) i nisu baš reprezentativni...

Nemoguće ih je izvaditi iz kalupa ako se ne stave nakratko u škrinju, pa nakratko pod vruću vodu i imaju rupice po sebi jer je zrak u karamelu neizbježan.

eto, tu kolofonija ipak ima malu prednost spram šećera...

prilično je postojanija i otpornija od šećera...

a rupice su također neizbježne

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