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Nepročitano 20-05-11, 15:56   #301
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ja znam koliko problema imam sa metalnim prahom i smolom a kakve bi tek probleme imao sa nano prahom nezelim ni znati XD

mislim da je problem ili u kolicini aktivatora ili u omjeru smola : prah ili u stanju metala (oksidiran..) a definitivno ulogu imaju temperatura, vrijeme...

jer dosta cesto zna odjednom da sekrene stvrdnjavati pa doslovno naraste kao tijesto i bude supljikavo i nateceno.
u drugom slucaju nece dulje vrijeme da se aktivira pa se oksidira, postane zeleno pa smola bude gumenasta i zelatinasta

ako dodam premalo aktivatora onda ili nereagira smola ili se stvrdne u gumu. ako dodam vise aktivatora opet onako bukne...

treba naci najidealniji omjer friskog praha i smole u koji se dodaje tocna kolicina aktivatora i da kalup mora biti na idealnoj temperaturi...a to jos nisam otkrio...ali sam sve blize


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ako i dobijes nekada te gumene smjese koja se nece stvrdne samo ju ubaci u sredinu sljedeceg orgonita koji ces radit.. smola ce se polimerizirat sama po sebi kad tad, a i dok nije stvrdnuta obovlja posao jer svejedno su to slojevi organsko/anorgansko.. jedino sto ce izostajat dok se ne stvrdne unutar novog orgonita je piez. el. efekat..

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ako i dobijes nekada te gumene smjese koja se nece stvrdne samo ju ubaci u sredinu sljedeceg orgonita koji ces radit.. smola ce se polimerizirat sama po sebi kad tad, a i dok nije stvrdnuta obovlja posao jer svejedno su to slojevi organsko/anorgansko.. jedino sto ce izostajat dok se ne stvrdne unutar novog orgonita je piez. el. efekat..

dakle nemoj te ostatke ni slucajno bacat vec ih iskoristi

ma ne bacam, sve te neuspjele orgonitne otpatke skupljam u vrecicu pa malo po malo dodajem svakom orgnitu


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ja znam koliko problema imam sa metalnim prahom i smolom a kakve bi tek probleme imao sa nano prahom nezelim ni znati XD

mislim da je problem ili u kolicini aktivatora ili u omjeru smola : prah ili u stanju metala (oksidiran..) a definitivno ulogu imaju temperatura, vrijeme...
ako sam dobro skuzio ti dodajes najprije prah u smolu pa tek kasnije aktivator? zasto? Prije 3 god sam kupio jako skupi koper(sad se vise nemogu sjetit kako se zove) kao antivegetativni premaz za moj gliser;dobijes epoxi komponentu A i B (sve skupa 1 litra ako se dobro sjećam)+ 1 kg 99%tnog bakra u prahu-uputstvo je bilo najprije dobro izmjesati komponente A i B i onda tek polako dodavati bakreni prah uz konstantno mjesanje dok se ne umjesa sav prah i tek onda premazivati.. Tako da zapravo imam naorgonizirano dno glisera vec 3 god a da nisam ni znao. Prvih nekoliko orgonita sam napravio od alu praha (kojeg sam dobio teskom mukom cjepkajuci alu foliju i ubacujuci listice u mikser sa vodo itd) i epoxya, i isto sam najprije pomjesao komponente pa tek onda polako dodavao prah uz mjesanje i uglavnom su komadi ispali dobro skoro bez mjehurića odnosno rupica iako je smjesa zbog puno alu praha bila toliko gusta da je jedva curila. Sada imam neki super fini alu prah od firme West System (isto rade epoxye za plovila,ima u Bauhaus) i samo ga malo dodam kad radim koji orgonit, u vec izmjesanu smolu i aktivator+malo med ugljena u prahu cist tako da dobijem malo sivkaste ili tamnije boje da se manje ili uopce ne vide spene i svasta ostalog. A sto se tice razloga zasto se umece orgonit u zapper izgleda da sam imao POTPUNO krivu misao(to da nekakav emf proizveden zapperom okrene u POR i šiba u tijelo...ma kakav emf na skoro pa nista mA istosmj struje),..valjda mi promaklo,evo sta pise Don Croft na prvoj str worldwithoutparasites zasto je ubacio orgonit;It's mainly the addition of orgonite to our Zappers that causes them to 'feel good to use.' That feeling is a result of orgonite transmuting one's destructive emotions and the energy of parasites into strong life force (orgone). This enhances the healing, restorative processes in the body.
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ako sam dobro skuzio ti dodajes najprije prah u smolu pa tek kasnije aktivator? zasto? Prije 3 god sam kupio jako skupi koper(sad se vise nemogu sjetit kako se zove) kao antivegetativni premaz za moj gliser;dobijes epoxi komponentu A i B (sve skupa 1 litra ako se dobro sjećam)+ 1 kg 99%tnog bakra u prahu-uputstvo je bilo najprije dobro izmjesati komponente A i B i onda tek polako dodavati bakreni prah uz konstantno mjesanje dok se ne umjesa sav prah i tek onda premazivati.. Tako da zapravo imam naorgonizirano dno glisera vec 3 god a da nisam ni znao. Prvih nekoliko orgonita sam napravio od alu praha (kojeg sam dobio teskom mukom cjepkajuci alu foliju i ubacujuci listice u mikser sa vodo itd) i epoxya, i isto sam najprije pomjesao komponente pa tek onda polako dodavao prah uz mjesanje i uglavnom su komadi ispali dobro skoro bez mjehurića odnosno rupica iako je smjesa zbog puno alu praha bila toliko gusta da je jedva curila. Sada imam neki super fini alu prah od firme West System (isto rade epoxye za plovila,ima u Bauhaus) i samo ga malo dodam kad radim koji orgonit, u vec izmjesanu smolu i aktivator+malo med ugljena u prahu cist tako da dobijem malo sivkaste ili tamnije boje da se manje ili uopce ne vide spene i svasta ostalog. A sto se tice razloga zasto se umece orgonit u zapper izgleda da sam imao POTPUNO krivu misao(to da nekakav emf proizveden zapperom okrene u POR i šiba u tijelo...ma kakav emf na skoro pa nista mA istosmj struje),..valjda mi promaklo,evo sta pise Don Croft na prvoj str worldwithoutparasites zasto je ubacio orgonit;It's mainly the addition of orgonite to our Zappers that causes them to 'feel good to use.' That feeling is a result of orgonite transmuting one's destructive emotions and the energy of parasites into strong life force (orgone). This enhances the healing, restorative processes in the body.

uvjek prvo pomjesam smolu i aktivator i onda dodam prah :)

zapravo...pomjesam smolu i aktivator i metnem u kalup a onda zlicom dodajem prah unutra i mijesam

e da, i shvatio sam da se nesmije dodati puno praha jer opet ispadne gumenasto :(


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uvjek prvo pomjesam smolu i aktivator i onda dodam prah :)

zapravo...pomjesam smolu i aktivator i metnem u kalup a onda zlicom dodajem prah unutra i mijesam

e da, i shvatio sam da se nesmije dodati puno praha jer opet ispadne gumenasto :(
ne kuzim uopce zasto ti ispada gumasto. mozda je stara smola..ili je bakreni prah-kod njega treba vise aktivatora
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ymbz ako na zapperu napravis orgonit kroz koji aktivno tece struja zappera to nije isto kao da samo kroz orgonit provuces zice sa izolacijom.. u prvom slucaju imas jako mocnu zvijerkicu u drugom imas mlaki emf efekt..


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ne kuzim uopce zasto ti ispada gumasto. mozda je stara smola..ili je bakreni prah-kod njega treba vise aktivatora
ma nije stara...bar nebi trebala biti...covjek kod kojeg kupujem nabavlja redovito

da uvijek stavim duplovise aktivatora ali ko sto sam reko, ako stavim malo manje od duplo nece da se stvrdne a ako duplo ili vise onda pocme bujati


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ymbz ako na zapperu napravis orgonit kroz koji aktivno tece struja zappera to nije isto kao da samo kroz orgonit provuces zice sa izolacijom.. u prvom slucaju imas jako mocnu zvijerkicu u drugom imas mlaki emf efekt..
moram priznat da ne kuzim sta si tu zelio reći,,jer kako ce drukcije struja ici kroz orgonit nego kroz neku zicu koju umetnes u njega prije nego se stvrdne? Ja sam u onu moju kutiju sa instrumentima,potenciometrom i zapperom unutar donjeg dijela kucista stavio zavojnicu od 5-6 zavoja (neizolirana bakr zica promjera 1,3mm) i onda u taj prostoric ubacio srednje i sitne spene,komadice kristala i ulio epoxy sa malo krist praha i alu praha ,tako da zavojnica ostane sva unutar smjese i da se prozima sa svim njenim dijelovima i tako odlio orgonit.Malo zice je ostalo viriti na pocetku i na kraju tog org bloka i na to sam klemom spojio izlaz iz zappera na jedan kraj, a na drugi buksnu koja je ugrađena u kutiju i to je konacni izlaz + pola struje iz cijele kutije. Htio sam napravit nesto slicno Term zapp ili onom orgonskom iz Orgonise Africa ali i uz one super fotke koje je poslala LunaPia se NE VIDI kuda idu zice i sto je sa cime spojeno,cak mi se cini da kroz orgonitni blok zice uopce neidu.
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sta hocu reci.. je da nije ista stvar dal zica koja prolazi kroz orgonit na sebi ima izolaciju ili nema.. ako ima izolaciju struja nece prec i na sam orgonit i time ga "napajati" vec ce samo emf koji prodire kroz izolaciju zice pokretati orgonit al to je mlakiji efekt..


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