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Nepročitano 25-07-11, 07:41   #341
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Na ovom portalu vidim previše nagađanja i priće, a najmanje konkretnih poduzimanja.


po čemu to tako zaključuješ?

a da malo bolje istražiš temu?

bez metalne piljevine nema orgonita (ili orgona kak ti kao stručnjak veliš na svojoj stranici )...

zna se točno što je orgonit i kako ga se radi...

uređaj sa kristalom zalivenim u smolu zbog piezoefekta daje jedan jači output, ali ne konvertira DOR u POR, upravo zbog nedostatka slojeva organsko-neorgansko...

zavojnica dodatno pojačava i usmjerava protok...i to sve zajedno može biti pojačivač i emiter frekvencija, kak ti veliš...

sve to lijepo funkcionira jedno vrijeme, dok se ne nakupi DOR-a, a onda adio...i zato to nije orgonit...

kao što i sam znaš, kristal se povremeno mora i očistiti...a nadam se da znaš i kako kristal nije najbitniji elemenat u orgonitu...

sretno i nadalje s uređajima (kako god ih zvao), duhovnim rastom, i hvala što si nas odmah u startu podržao lijepim riječima i svojim višegodišnjim iskustvom

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Bok Elf i ostali koji se interesiraju za orgonsku energiju. Radionice i predavanja držim po cijeloj Istri, a dogovaram naskoro i u Zagrebu.
Orgoniti se mogu koristiti u više svrha: za zaštitu od negativnih frekvencija, za liječenje, za duhovni rast, itd. Za one koji nešto vide i odmah sve znaju, nije rad sa orgonitima. Moje iskustvo se proteže na nekih 12 godina, a aktivan sam član i orgonit udruženja iz Njemačke i Švicarske. Bavim se već duže vrijeme i sa mnogim kombinacijama orgonita i frekvencija. Sama mjerenja su irelevantna, ako nikakav uspijeh nemožemo dokazati. Na ovom portalu vidim previše nagađanja i priće, a najmanje konkretnih poduzimanja. Kod nas se materijal kupuje zajednički, rade se projekti, postavljaju se ciljano orgoniti za zaštitu, itd... Na zaboravite...Mi imamo vrlo malo vremena, nemojmo ga tratiti, zašto se ne udružimo i skupno učinimo nešto za našu planetu zemlju i za dobrobit svih duša na zemlji. Orgoniti su nam samo jedna mala pripomoć. Još puno važnije je, pozitivna energija za zajednički cilj, za oslobađanje od svih negativnih energija, frekvencija, manipulacije. Za sveukupno uzdizanje svijesti na slijedeću razinu. Uvijek sam spreman pomoći na tom putu.
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Ok. Aj sad ti nama, a naročito svima koji su učestvovali u pisanju oko 1000 stranica podeljenih iskustava na ovom forumu, objasni zašto na tvom sajtu ne piše AMA BAŠ ništa o orgonu i orgonitima, i ima samo par slika orgonita od kojih tek u ponekom ima prstohvat špene/metalne strugotine(ili piljevine)?
Sam Dr Reich je rekao da je orgonit smesa smole i špene u odnosu pola-pola sa dodatkom kristala, otkad si ti to pametniji od njega, koji je otkrio orgon?
Gde su tvojih 12 godina iskustva na tom sajtu?
Zašto ih čuvaš za sebe a pozivaš ljude "pod svoje okrilje", da ih naučiš svemu, umesto da im sve opišeš na svom portalu pa da mogu da rade kod kuće?
Zašto ne podeliš sa nama, ovde na forumu, pa da vidimo da li možda mi grešimo u nečemu?
Da se razumemo, nisam od onih koji odmah sve znaju, pročitao sam skoro sve sa ovog dela foruma (sekcija o Orgonu) pre nego što sam se upustio u izradu orgonita.

Meni se po onome što sam video na tvom portalu čini da si ti od onih koji teže da okupe oko sebe ovce kojima prodaješ svoju "mudrost i znanje" i težiš da im budeš centralna figura u svemu tome i da ih učiniš zavisnim od tebe, tj. tripuješ da si nekakav guru za duhovni rad i "želiš svima da pomogneš".
Kad si tako nesebičan podeli iskustva sa nama, daj neke slike svojih orgonita, lokacije koje si darivao, video klipove svojih radova?

E, pa, uz svo dužno poštovanje, malo je ovaca ovde za tvoje stado.

Ako ti na ovom forumu brdo slika raznih vrsta orgonita i opisi darivanja raznih lokacija orgonitima nije konkretno delanje, šta jeste? Reci nam kad si tako pun iskustva koje si spreman da deliš?

Ako ne odgovoriš konkretno, razumno i razgovetno na ova pitanja , tj. zapušiš mi usta dokazima da si u pravu u vezi svega što pričaš - uz dokaze, zaradićeš moje poštovanje kao što ga imaju i svi ostali ovde.
Pod "zapušiš usta" mislim na to da posle tvojih odgovora NIKO ne bi trebao da ima pitanja ili argumente kojima bi se nastavila diskusija o tvom integritetu i znanju.

U ovome što sam rekao mislim na tvoju priču o orgonu i orgonitima a ne na ostatak sadržaja tvog sajta. Sa tim stvarima nemam iskustva i ne mešam se u to, ali o orgonu i orgonitima ćeš ovde teško nekome prodati "muda za bubrege".

Izvinjavam se svima pa i tebi što sam ovako oštar ali prošao sam svašta u životu i preko glave mi je kojekakvih lažnih gurua koji traže ovce za šišanje i hrane svoj ego šireći neku kvazi-duhovnost.

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mali ispravak, Dr. Reich nije konstruirao orgonite tj. orgonske generatore, već orgonske akumulatore (ORAC)...svejedno, prvi je dokazao postojanje univerzalne životne energije svojim eksperimentima, i istovremeno pokazao da je za prikupljanje Orgona oko nas poterban uređaj koji ima u sebi slojeve 2 komponenti, jedne organske (na bazi ugljika ili silicija) i jedne anorganske (metali)...

dok prva privlači Orgon, druga ga na kratko također privuče i zatim vrlo brzo odbije...

prve generatore, Orgonite, koji imaju sposobnost transmutirati DOR u POR je napravio Karl Welz, i to bez kristala:



desetljeće iza njega su Don i Carol Croft ubacili i kristale u cijelu priču, zato što su oni omogućili da uređaji budu manji i funkcionalniji...

ja mogu vjerovati da se neko bavi Orgonskom energijom 12 godina, ali to ne znači istovremeno da se ista osoba dobro razumije u Orgonite, jer bi onda znala važnost metalne piljevine u uređajima...

i zato ne treba mistificirati ništa i pridavati kristalima u orgonitu veću ulogu nego što imaju...

kristali ništa ne transmutiraju, naročito ne DOR u POR, jer se onda nikada ne bi trebali čistiti...

kristali su mali emiteri, i ne treba ih puno u orgonit da bi on bio djelotvoran...

upravo mješavina piljevine i smole ih održava čistima u uređaju...

a što se rada samog foruma tiče, nitko na forumu ne naplaćuje i ne drži nikakve radionice, nego već skoro 2 godine dobrovoljno dijeli svoja iskustva i stimulira i ostale da sami naprave svoje uređaje...

to pametnomu govori dosta o ovome portalu

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p.s. ne treba zaboraviti ni okultistu Franza Bardona, koji je istih godina kada je Dr. Reich izrađivao akumulatore, izrađivao prve orgonite zapravo, a zvao ih je Fluid - kondenzatorima...

u pitanju je bila mješavina praha određenih metala u određenom omjeru, pomiješanih sa aloe smolom i ugljenom u prahu...

čini se da je Welz itekako bio upućen u radove Reich-a i Bardona ;))

i sorry za debeli offtopic na zapper-u :))

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This was just sent to me by a friend who is a medical doctor. Several studies on the effects of weak electric current were published in "reputable" scientific journals. Interstingly most of the studies were done in 1990s. Why was there no more recent follow up despite the promising results? Your guess is as good as mine...

If you cut through the "scientific" mumbo jumbo*, you'll notice 2 things. Any direct current shrinks tumors. It doesn't even have to be pulsed. It almost pities me how limited the spectrum of allowed though is once you are a mainstream scientist. Well, at least the funding is much better. In the first 2 studies they put their poor trial mice on a copper plate electrode with contact gel and inserted a thin gold wire probe directly into the tumor. That way they were obviously avoiding the danger of blood clotting which is mminent with unpulsed dc. Not surprisingly they found that the mice died when the tumors were shrunk too fast. We all know that killing cancer cells releases toxic material into the body that needs to be dwalt with. So don't shrink your cancer too fast. After all, official medicine tells you it's pretty much incurable anyways.

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