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Nepročitano 03-03-11, 19:51   #21
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ambalaza i pakiranje hrane

ALUMINIJ

05.FIZIOLOSKA SVOJSTVA

- netoksican na ljudski orgnizam,
- ne djeluje kataliticki na razne kemijeske, enzimatske i druge procese (ne utjece na razaranje aminokiselina, vitamina i sl.)
- ne mjenja okus, boju i miris namirnice
- namirnice pakirane u Al ambalazi mogu imati i do 200 mg/kg Al ali ako je Al ambalaza dobro lakirana ta se kolicina smanjuje na 50 mg/kg
- Al je u ziveznim namirnicama biljnog podrijetla u znatnim kolicinama (1kg luka ima 43 mg Al)
- smatra se da u prosjecnom dnevnom obroku ima 13 mg Al
- ljudski organizam ne akumulira Al, on se kao i kalcij i magnezij u probavnim organima talozi i izbacuje iz organizma


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jednostavno se ne slazem sa njihovim tvrdnjama..
cini mi se kao da su tu da podrze danasnju bezglavu civilizaciju koja bi bez aluminija u masi proizvodnih pogona bila ozbiljno usporena ili cak nemoguca..

za boga miloga djeca danas u udzbenicima skolskim uce o "prirodnom fenomenu" upornih contrailova na nebesima.. na faxu su samo malo veca djeca.. bez uvrede i disrispekta.. od mikrobiologije do kemije kockice se slazu istina.. al krugovi, trokuti i svi ostali oblici uopce ne igraju..


ovo mi je malo blize istini o aluminiju al takodjer ne odrazava moje stajaliste..

"The most prevalent of metal toxicity found now days is aluminum toxicity. Aluminum toxicity could lead to health hazards such as speech problems, memory loss, headaches, anemia, kidney dysfunction, liver problems, extreme nervousness, gastrointestinal problems, softening of bones, colic problems, and problems related to normal metabolic activities of the body etc. Aluminum toxicity is observed to cause disorders resembling Alzheimer's disease at times.

The ease with which aluminum gets absorbed into our blood stream is extremely quick and swift. As aluminum does not get excreted through urine it remains within the body for some time. If this aluminum content within the body and blood stream exceeds the ability of the body to wipe it out this excess of aluminum could get deposited within the organs including the heart.

The content of aluminum in muscles, brain, spleen, bones and liver and other essential and vital body organs could seriously hamper the normal mental poise of any individual. The mental composure of a person is easily degraded due to such stagnation of high aluminum content within the body. Aluminum toxicity is a subject of grave concern to be addressed by both the medical professionals as well as the common man who in the end consumes these items of aluminum toxicity. Aluminum toxicity could also lead to seizures sometimes."




meni se cini da je stanje elementa bitnije nego sama cinjenica da je element prisutan.. tipa aluminij iz kapule koji dobijemo je u koloidnom stanju sa odredjenim atomskim spinom nasljedjenim iz vitalne sile biljke..


u kakvom stanju je aluminij koji absorbiramo iz prehrambenih ambalaza sam bog zna..


Uistinu, Bog je tako ljubio svijet te je dao svoga Sina Jedinorođenca da nijedan koji u njega vjeruje ne propadne, nego da ima život vječni.
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a sad ja sam neutralan sto se tice toga svega
no podrzavam da tvar iste empirijske formule i strukturne formule moze imati razlicito djelovanje s obzirom na porijeklo tj okolnosti, emocije i energetiku prostora u kojem se nalazila. dobar primjer su vitamini biljnog i zivotnijskog podrijetla i umjetni vitamini u apotekama.
ne samo nasa povijest vec i samo shvacanje svijeta oko nas treba biti do temelja preispitano i promjenjeno no toga nece biti dok je sve u rukama korupcije, sebicnosti i primitivizma. no vidim da se kod sve vise ljudi rađa ta iskra koja bi uskoro mogla zapaliti knjige kojima nas ogranicava demokratska diktatura i uvesti nas u novo doba znanja i samosvjesnosti.

i sjetio sam se da je profa rekla da iako je aluminij bezopasan da u vecim kolicinama moze biti opasan kao i svaka tvar (svaka tvar je za organizam opasna ovisno o kolicini, pa cak i voda) te da se naravno izbjegava izlozenost vecoj kolicini

cakje par puta naglasila "danasnja saznanja da je aluminij"


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da no koliko znam sa predavanja aluminij je bezopasan
dok opet spojevi srebra i bakra mogu biti opasni

SREBRO, Ag

BIOLOŠKI PODACI

Biološka uloga: Nikakva, posebno toksičan za niže organizme.

Toksičnost:

Toksični unos: topljive soli, probavno, čovjek = 1g
Smrtonosna doza: LDˇ50 (nitrat, oralno, miš) = 50 mg kg-1


Opasnosti: Topljive soli srebra iritiraju kožu i mukozne membrane, i mogu izazvati smrt ako se progutaju čak i u najmanjim količinama. Za srebro se pretpostavlja da je karcinogeno.

Količina u
čovjeku

Krv/mg dm^-3: < 0,003
Kosti/ppm: 0,01 - 0,44
Jetra
/ppm: 0,005 - 0,25
Mišići/ppm: 0,009 - 0,28
Dnevno potrebna količina:
0,0014 - 0,08
Ukupna masa elementa u 70 kg teškoj (prosječnoj) osobi: 2 mg



BAKAR, Cu

BIOLOŠKI PODACI

Biološka uloga: Esencijalan za sve vrste.

Toksičnost
Toksični unos: 85 g metala; 20 g CuSO4
Smrtonosna doza: 60 g CuSO4; LDˇ50 (sulfat, oralno, štakor) = 300 mg kg^-1


Opasnosti: I mala količina od samo 30 g CuSO4 može biti smrtonosna ako se proguta.

Količina u čovjeku

Krv/mg dm-3: 1,01
Kosti/ppm: 1 - 26
Jetra
/ppm: 30
Mišići/ppm:
10
Dnevno potrebna količina:
0,50 - 6 mg
Ukupna masa elementa u 70 kg teškoj (prosječnoj) osobi:
72 mg






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ALUMINIJ, Al

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Biološka uloga: Nema poznatu biološku ulogu

Toksičnost:
Toksični unos: 5 g

Opasnosti: Aluminij se taloži u organizmu od dnevnog uzimanja. Njegovi spojevi se koriste za proizvodnju aditiva za hranu i tableta za liječenje loše probave.

Količina u
čovjeku

Krv/mg dm-3: 0,39 Kosti/ppm: 4 - 27
Jetra/ppm: 3 - 23
Mišići/ppm:
0,7 - 28
Dnevno potrebna količina:
2,45 mg
Ukupna masa elementa u 70 kg teškoj (prosječnoj) osobi: 60 mg


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a cuj ako se i talozi u organizmu i u nekim visim dozama je otrovan to neznaci da u manjim dozama koje unosim obrokom da je opasan jer eto moj faks, koji ima napredne labose i najbolji analiticki odjel za pregled namirnica (mesa, ribe, mlijeka, meda, zitarica, voca i povrca, vina, ulja i masti, ugljikohidrata) u ovom dijelu hrvatske ako ne i u cjeloj drzavi, tvrde da je inertan i da ne sudjeluje u metabolickim procesima. ne vjerujem da bi trovali sebe same i druge oko sebe ;)

mnogi moji profesori su proveli studije o utjecaju teskih metala na zdravlje ljudi vezanim za specificne namirnice u kolegiju pod koji oni spadaju. eto cak cu i ja provoditi razne analize na nekim buducim vjezbama

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ALI sa Zapperom Al ulazi direktno u krvotok, a ne u probavni trakt,,, još jednom da ponovim to što ulazi u org. nije čak ni Al več njegovi oksidi - Hrđa!


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ALI sa Zapperom Al ulazi direktno u krvotok, a ne u probavni trakt,,, još jednom da ponovim to što ulazi u org. nije čak ni Al več njegovi oksidi - Hrđa!
a da to je vec druga stvar

ali prema tome nebi trebali biti u doticaju ni sa bakrom, ni sa srebrom. mislim da su soli ta dva metala jos gore od soli aluminija.
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BIOLOŠKI PODACI
Biološka uloga: Esencijalan za sve vrste. Toksičnost:
Toksični unos: 200 mg. Željezo(II) spojevi su toksičniji od željezo(III) spojeva.
Smrtonosna doza: 7 - 35 g

Opasnosti: Željezna prašina predstavlja umjerenu opasnost od eksplozije i požara; kronična izloženost izaziva željeznu pneumokoniozu. Manjak željeza dovodi do anemije, a višak može izazvati oštećenje jetre i bubrega. Za neke spojeve željeza se sumnja da su karcinogeni.
Količina u čovjeku
Krv/mg dm^-3: 447 Kosti/ppm: 3 - 380 Jetra/ppm: 250 - 1400 Mišići/ppm: 180 Dnevno potrebna količina: 6 - 40 mg Ukupna masa elementa u 70 kg teškoj (prosječnoj) osobi: 4,2 g


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