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Nepročitano 06-09-11, 12:59   #101
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Je , slažem se da su teme usko vezane, ali su odvojene tematski na forumu. Pošto je forum javan, može dovesti do nedoumica.

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znam ih puno.. a i sama znas vecinu onoga sto ja znam, samo ne razmisljas o tome u kontekstu primjene za neutralizaciju chemtrail supstanci..

znaci sve sto nas cisti vise manje i o cemu ovaj forum prica..

uzemljenje je jako dobro naglaseno..


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ne vidim ništa loše utome, da se povremeno povedu i ovakve debate jer kad se glave malo ohlade, onda svako ponovnim čitanjem može vidjeti tko je i što je, pa da se ne znam ti ja kako prezentira kao lightworker ili neko s neznam ti ja koliko godina rada s "energijama" ili ne znam ti ja što...nagledao sam se takvih pozitivaca...

upravo kao što mnogi i vele, svijest je temelj svih naših postupaka...

činimo ili ne činimo, ali opet u skladu sa stanjem naše svijesti...

ono što je posebno iritantno u "alternativnim" krugovima je forsirana "pozitiva", j****o jedni drugima m***r u svilenim rukavicama (u našem slučaju silikonskim, gumenim, jer su se pokazale korisnije pri izradi orgonita), doskočicama i ne znam ti ja kakvim profinjenim mudrolijama...

svi odreda, čak i oni što "šire pozitivu"...

dok god je borba protiv bilo čega u pitanju, možemo biti sigurni da nam je svijest daleko od bilo kakvog svjetla i pozitive...i tako to moramo prihvatiti...što god radili iz takve svijesti, da je ne znam ti ja kako plemenito po našem uvjerenju, rezultata bu slabo bilo...

i zato, najbolje je kada se karte stave na stol i svi iskreno reknu što misle, naravno, ako zbilja imaju iskustvo i argumente za takvo mišljenje...





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Toliko je dezinformacija osvanulo u ovoj debati... toliko nerazumijevanja prirode stvarnosti, toliko otpora prema životu. Dokle god se zadržavamo ( množina ) na materijalnom nivou, pogotovo s ovakvim intezitetom, gledamo na život kroz jako usku i plitku sferu. Više dobra bi se napravilo kad bi osvjestili ove misli, otpore, strahove nego miljoni i miljoni orgonita.

Zar smo zaboravili da je materijalan svijet projekcija uma (The perceiver is reflected in what is perceived )?

Mijenjajuči sebe mijenjamo svijet?

Stvari koje vrijeme može promijeniti nisu stvarne, one su u umu i od uma.

Nitko te ne može naljutiti ako nemaš ljutnju u sebi.

Borba je početak gubljenja.

Kada ne želiš ništa i prihvačaš sve, postaješ univerzalni čovjek.

Volimo se ljudi, zar smo zaboravili da iskrena ljubav ima bezgraničnu vrijednost s kojom se ne može usporediti niti jedan eterični uređaj?

Pa zar da radimo orgonite iz otpora prema ''zlikovcima'' , a ne iz ljubavi?




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Pa zar da radimo orgonite iz otpora prema ''zlikovcima'' , a ne iz ljubavi?
upravo tako

ne razumijem kako mi neko s takvim stavom može reći da mu trebam biti zahvalan što mi "čisti" nebo

hvala lijepa, neka počisti prvo u, oko i iznad svoje kuće...

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@ gordanaa,

iskustva ljudi vani su uglavnom takva, da previše petljanja sa zavjnicama radi više kaosa nego ravnomjernog outputa orgona iz uređaja...naročito HHg-i znaju bit tako zbrčkani...

zato su TB-i dalje zakon, zbog svoje jednostavnosti i ravnomjernog transformiranja i isijavanja orgona...

previše toga u HHg jednostavno ima kaotičniji output, i to može nabrijavati i smetati osjetljivim individuama...i tu zavojnice znaju biti ključni čimbenik...
Ok. Pošten odgovor. Znači radi se o iskustvima ljudi iz vana. Kako ja ne znam ni koji su to ljudi, ni kako su došli do tih zaključaka, a odgovori na pitanja koja sam postavljala, nisu mi razjasnila moje nedoumice, ja sam bila slobodna izraditi, u ovo kratko vrijeme od kada sam ušla u ovu priču, vrlo različitih uređaja po mnogim karakterisikama: vrstama špene, redosljedom slaganja, odvajanjima, zavojnicama, kristalima, njihovom broju i njihovom radosljedu, itd. Na temelju onoga što sama doživljavam, a i na temelju komentara onih kojima sam ih dala na svojevrsna testiranja i komentara onih kojima sam ih poklonila, ja ih izrađujem upravo prema zaključcima koje sam iz toga izvukla.

Recimo, meni je stavljanje sbb spirale u svaki orgonit obavezan, pa i u HHG. Čak ih radim male i stavljam na dno orgonita za mobitele. Na temelju tih testiranja je više ljudi, što radiostezista, što ljudi koji snažno osijećaju energije, reklo da su ti uređaji jasniji i određeniji u svom djelovanju.

Teško je ovu tematiku dizati na neku znanstvenu razinu, ali jedna od osnova znanosti je i metodologija koja uvijek mora biti jasno predočena drugima kako da bi se moglo procijeniti na temelju kakvih postupaka i iz toga dobivenih rezultata je izvučen zaključak, ali i da bi netko drugi isti postupak mogao ponoviti i provjeriti da li se dobijaju isti rezultati. Ponavljam, nije mi cilj tražiti zadovoljavanje stogih znanstvenih kriterija u ovoj priči, ali kada se običnom čovjeku podastru tako dobiveni podaci onda ih on, meni se tako čini, i sam može lakše prihvatiti.

Ja bih voljela da se orgoniti rašire svuda oko mene kao epidemija, da ih ljudi izrađuju, poklanjaju jedni drugima, da ih rado prihvaćaju, ali teško to ide kada nekome predstavljate orgonite samo izjavama "ja vjerujem", "ja osijećam" i sl. Koliko god mnogobrojna ponašanja ljudi pokazuju da smo zaglupljani u mnogočemu, ja opet vjerujem u ljudsku sposobnost zdravog i logičkog prosuđivanja njegovim vlastitim mozgom.

I iako stavljam zavojnice, a ti ne, nikad neću reći da su moji orgoniti bolji od tvojih (ali neću ni obrnuto) jer još uvijek ne smatram da je metodologija provjere njihove, da tako kažem, kvalitete na nekoj visokoj razini koja daje pouzdane podatke. Tu još uvijek idam principom da je to sve više na razini osijećanja, intuicije i sl., pa ako je i djelovanje placeba, neka je dok je god dobro.

Jučer sam počela raditi jedan HHG prema željama jedne forumašice. Zahtjevna izrada i način koji se pomalo kosi s nekim mojim poimanjima i mojoj intuiciji, ali ako ona osijeća da je to to, da je takav HHG najbolji za nju ili nekog oko nje, ok. Znam da ne može biti loš, ali da li je to najbolji mogući?!? Nadam se da za nju je!


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Zar se može ljubav dati a da nisi prvi? To je nešto što iz tvojega srca istiće, a ne imitacija tuđeg ponašanja.

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sta se tice izrade orgonita, ja kombiniram sa svime i svacime sta se tice oblika, nebo jos nisam pocea cistit ali orgonite san pocea razbacivat pogradu. Od metala koristim sve ali bakar, al i fe mi moraju bit, obavezno kristal jos. sta se tice samog orgona, mi tek grebemo po tom podruciju i jos ne razumimo samo njegovo djelovanje zbog cega se svi mogu svadjat a da su svi u pravu. mada ima dana kada se jednostavno zelis svadjat. za ocistit nebo iznad slovenije dovoljno je jedna HHG jer nije to bas kus neba. jedan top drzi do 70km u promjeru cistim.
Preferiram HHg-ove u svojoj verziji ili standarne (martini kalup) i takodjer prstenja i medaljone jer su lipi a pokrivaju dovoljno osobe da bude ucinkovito zasticena.
Ovo pisen iako nikog nije briga ali triba srat kad je wc blizu.


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Recimo, meni je stavljanje sbb spirale u svaki orgonit obavezan, pa i u HHG. Čak ih radim male i stavljam na dno orgonita za mobitele. Na temelju tih testiranja je više ljudi, što radiostezista, što ljudi koji snažno osijećaju energije, reklo da su ti uređaji jasniji i određeniji u svom djelovanju.
sbb prikuplja i usmjerava, fokusira energiju, i svakako ga se da osjetiti ako je u uređaju...pogotovo tako kako su ga opisali...

no, ono što je bitno napomenuti jeste da on nije neophodan za dobar rad uređaja ;)


osobno su mi draži uređaji koji šibaju na sve strane...tu su TB-i i sfere, polusfere (UFO model) nezamenljivi...

ima i njih, a i nas raznih, i svaki je ok na svoj način...

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keep it simple i nikada nećeš pogriješiti, niti imati brige oko najezde reptiloida...
Može li mi netko reći što su vam to ti reptiloidi ili je to neka tabu tema ili je to nešto prestrašno pa se o tome ne smije na glas govoriti?


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Originally Posted by RED PILL Pogledaj Post
to ti je kao i sa muzikom, prvo je sve krenulo s 3 jednostavna R'N'R rifa, onda se došlo do rok opera, da bi se zaključilo da su te prve, jednostavne stvari i dalje najbolje što je R'N'R ikada dao...
U ovom se potpunoma slažem s tobom. Najviše volim te stare stvari i vidim da se i ponovo i ponovo, i nove i nove, i mlađe i mlađe generacije na kraju balade vrate njima.

Ali ipak jedna mala primjedba, ni rock nije nastao ni iz čega. I prije njega je bilo nekih verzija glazbe..... Nije ni on baš početak....


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Originally Posted by Namjerni prolaznik Pogledaj Post
Zar se može ljubav dati a da nisi prvi? To je nešto što iz tvojega srca istiće, a ne imitacija tuđeg ponašanja.

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