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Nepročitano 23-09-09, 15:46   #101
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Mozda i ovisi kako kome koji vise pase.To je normalno da ne odgovaraju svakome iste stvari makar bi trebalo to sve dobro ispitati.. Evo onog popisa dobrih i losih metala od Reicha za izradu akumulatora.. DOBRI NEMETALI: vuna, sirovi pamuk, akrili, stirenska plastika, Celotex(ploca za zvucnu izolaciju), ploca od pluta, staklena vuna, fiberglas, kamena vuna, pcelinji vosak, vosak za svijece, preorana zemlja, voda. DOBRI METALI: celik ili zeljezo, u ploci ili resetki, galvanizirani celik, celicna vuna, nehrdajuci celik, slitina za konzerve od celika i kositra. LOSI ILI TOKSICNI NEMETALI: drvo ili piljevina, uretan ili poliuretan, ploca od sperploce(jako tvrda), organski materijali koji sadrze formaldehid, azbes, ili druge toksice kemikalije. LOSI ILI TOKSICNI METALI: aluminij u ploci ili resetki, olovo, bakar

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Mozda i ovisi kako kome koji vise pase.To je normalno da ne odgovaraju svakome iste stvari makar bi trebalo to sve dobro ispitati.. Evo onog popisa dobrih i losih metala od Reicha za izradu akumulatora.. DOBRI NEMETALI: vuna, sirovi pamuk, akrili, stirenska plastika, Celotex(ploca za zvucnu izolaciju), ploca od pluta, staklena vuna, fiberglas, kamena vuna, pcelinji vosak, vosak za svijece, preorana zemlja, voda. DOBRI METALI: celik ili zeljezo, u ploci ili resetki, galvanizirani celik, celicna vuna, nehrdajuci celik, slitina za konzerve od celika i kositra. LOSI ILI TOKSICNI NEMETALI: drvo ili piljevina, uretan ili poliuretan, ploca od sperploce(jako tvrda), organski materijali koji sadrze formaldehid, azbes, ili druge toksice kemikalije. LOSI ILI TOKSICNI METALI: aluminij u ploci ili resetki, olovo, bakar
da, to jest popis za akumulatore, ali za generatore (orgonite) vrijedi drukčije...naime ljudi koriste i aluminij i bakar bez problema, ali mislim da je to zbog kristala koji očito čisti DOR koji ova 2 metala povuku...

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Da vjerovatno je tako..I jesu ti gotovi orgoniti sa voskom?Jesu dobro ispali?

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Da vjerovatno je tako..I jesu ti gotovi orgoniti sa voskom?Jesu dobro ispali?


nisam znao da je to sa zamrzivačem djelotvorno i za vosak...obično to savjetuju za poliester i epoxy...

odmah su ispali van i jako su mi zanimljivi...mislim da ću napraviti još koji komad, bez obzira što neki misle da nije dovoljno djelotvorno...evo jedne brošure nekog lika (Jon Logan) koji daje primjere materijala za izradu orgonita iz sopstvenog iskustva:

http://www.4shared.com/file/97691745...onite.html?s=1

između ostalog spominje i pčelinji vosak kao dobar materijal

evo kratkog isječka o prirodnoj smoli (kolofonija) i pčelinjem vosku:

"Pitch:
Wonderful smooth feeling energy. A bit nicer than polyester resin, but less durable. Better imo as a primary than a secondary. I make a fair amount of stuff out of pitch. Will melt in the sun so must be kept indoors or buried. Is ideal for water gifting. Does not dissolve in water. Absorbs a charge well during curing. Strong connection to earth and water.


Beeswax:
A workable if not ideal organic primary. Energy output is less than pitch or polyester, and device must be contained somehow. Works better when cold."


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Replacement for ordinary resin in orgonite devise

The only effective replacement for ordinary resin in orgone devise is sugar because it has the same similarities to chimical components.

Recipe

You will need
-4 cups of sugar (white refined for our tests)
-2 cups of water (distilled and charged preferably)
-45 ml of white vinegar
-One candy thermometer (about 2 dollars)
-Saucepan (rather high (and if possible rather narrow) preferably to avoid spills)
-Wood spoons
-Glass jars to put in the mixture
-All the habitual ingredients for making orgone devices (crystals, metals, spirals, etc.)

Mix all the food ingredients in a saucepan. Bring to boil, and with a thermometer to verify the temperature of the mixture, that must attain 320 oF, or 160 oC (watch out not to surpass this temperature otherwise the mixture will burn).
It is absolutely necessary to avoid mixing during the whole heating period.
After the temperature is reached remove from heat, let it stand for a few seconds before pouring into jars, add metal, spirals and or crystals. Mix well.
Leave to dry for a few hours and seal the jars or varnish the forms if you do not wish to use containers (this has not been tested very often).


DEVELOPEMENT

Francis was telling me that he now poured the sugar in the jars before he incorporated the metal, which works better to mix the content, this is the best way we found. NEVER PUT THE METAL BEFORE THE SUGAR IN THE JARS, especially in the spice jars, cooked sugar being too thick it does not pass through the metal shavings.

Ideas recommended by Ma-ra on the forum, leave the mixture to soak at least 24H before cooking, that will lower the cooking time by half, ideally, obtain a 2 or 5 gallon barrel which you can get in any restaurant for free. Fill it with the sugar mixture and let stand. Before cooking, it is important to mix the ingredients well.
For a replacement to the Tb, spice containers available at most dollar stores normally at 3 for one dollar . I found them very effective and they are practically unbreakable, one can launch them outside the car on the expressway without problems.

To seal the containers I use a hot glue gun, this is the cheapest and most effective way that I found. One can also use "Goop Glue" or silicone to seal their containers.

evo, šta veli onaj lik iz mog prijašnjeg posta o šećeru kao materijalu za orgonit:

"Sugar:
Have not tried this myself yet, but some are reporting success with sugar (hard candy) as an alternative to polyester, similar to pitch."


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no, s druge strane, sam Don Croft veli na ovome forumu da bi šećer mogao biti odlična organska zamjena za poliester s obzirom da ima kristalnu strukturu ali veli da su sa bilo kojm vrstom voska imali slabe rezultate...

isto tako hvali prirodnu smolu, što znači da je kolofonija za sada jedina adekvatna organska zamjena za poliester, mada nije nešto postojana u vanjskim uvjetima poput poliestera...

http://www.warriormatrix.com/viewtop...er=asc&start=0

teško je tu biti pametan, mada moram proznati da mi nije isti osjećaj držati u ruci orgonit od poliestera ili od pčelinjeg voska

koliko sam ja objektivan u cijeloj priči i to je diskutabilno

možda bi se dalo zaključiti, za TB koji je namijenjen za gifting je ok koristiti poliester a za unutarnje osobne TB ili HHg se može koristiti kolofonija ili šećer


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Bok, prijatelji!

Evo opet mene...

Dobrodošao, keter u naše debate!

Bio sam toliko okupiran, da nikako nisam našao vremena, i ispao sam privremeno iz aktualnih događaja na forumu. Vidim, da niste spavali, dok me nije bilo i to mi je jako drago!

Tvoja su osijetila na pravome mestu, Red Pill, nije pčelinji vosak baš pogodan za izradu orgonita, ja sam ga prestao upotrebljavati davne 1993. godine, jer nisam bio baš zadovoljan efektima u orgonskim akumulatorima i kombiniranju osobnih talismana sa orgonskom energijom.
Nekako, kao da "ubija" djelotvornost, kao da "guši" protok energije, kao, da ne želi privlačiti orgona...

Ideja o šećeru več je stara, pa ču narednih dana napraviti nekoliko pokusnih projekata sa njim, i naravno, pisati o tome.

Napravio sam ovih dana i dve orgonitne kugle od kolofonije i moram vas izvestiti, da odlično rade!.. Pošto je kolofonija tolko osijetliva, ostavio sam orgonit u okruglom staklu od starih lustera. Staklo ne smanjuje efikasnosti, pa sam oduševljen efektima.
Sada imam u planu napraviti dve orgonitne skulpture sa kuglama na vrhu... jako se volim igrati i stvarati nove i nove stvari

Imam i novi donji dio Don Croftovog CB-ja. Sad mi trebaju još dugačke cijevi od bakra, pa ajde u akciju!

Imam i tri orgonitne piramide, ali mi nisu baš dobro ispale, pa jih trebam popraviti...

Evo, toliko za sada.

Uživajte, stvarajte, igrajte se, pišite....

Već trčim izvaditi 7 orgonitnih "pogača" iz modela....


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Ima tu svega zanimljivoga..Mozda bi bilo dobro da se orgonit od kolofonije premaze tankim slojem sa poliesterom kako bi bio izdrzljiviji za vanjsku primjenu.Ovo sa secerom bi vrijedilo isprobati makar me je malo strah da nebi unistio cijelu kuhinju. Uglavnom trebamo i dalje istrazivati nista nam drugo ne preostaje..Gdje si stavio sve one silne orgonite ako ti nisu vise u stanu?

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Mozda bi bilo dobro da se orgonit od kolofonije premaze tankim slojem sa poliesterom kako bi bio izdrzljiviji za vanjsku primjenu.
zanimljiva ideja, ali poliester dok se stvrdnjava razvija visoku temperaturu...možda bi se odljevak od kolofonije počeo topiti i tako izgubiti oblik


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Ovo sa secerom bi vrijedilo isprobati makar me je malo strah da nebi unistio cijelu kuhinju.

da, i ja tek skupljam hrabrost ...no, ja razmišljam da bi orgonit od šećera ipak pokušao izvaditi iz kalupa i držati negdje u stanu, samo je pitanje kako bi on reagirao na sobnu temperaturu...vjerojatno ne preporučaju džaba da se staklenke sa takvim orgonitima zapečate



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Uglavnom trebamo i dalje istrazivati nista nam drugo ne preostaje..



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Gdje si stavio sve one silne orgonite ako ti nisu vise u stanu?
odnio sam ih u podrum

iako imaju veliki radijus djelovanja, moje je osobno iskustvo da je razlika kada ih je hrpa s tobom na svega par kvadarata i kada vas dijeli više metara...

no, to je vjerojatno stvar osjetljivosti

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