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Nepročitano 05-01-13, 10:50   #51
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Draga Diana bas si ga dobro opisala okice se uvijek smiju i nitko na to ne ostaje ravnodusan:-)
Bili smo na par bioenergetskih tretmana kod Nenada Buselica i uvijek vidimo neke pomake nakon takvog ciklusa od 4 dana.
Buselic je stvarno super i kada god uhvatimo vremena voditi cemo ga tamo.
Inace on vrsi grupne tretmane a ne individualne.
Sto se dijagnoze tice ne opterecujem se puno oko toga je li ili nije autista, jer je to samo jedan nacin grupiranja razlicitih problema a mislim da je svaka osoba prica za sebe.

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Susreti s autizmom - Prava istina

Dokumentarni serijal Hrvatske televizije "Susreti s autizmom" oblikovan je u pet zasebnih pedesetominutnih filmova - epizoda. Scenarist i redatelj Mladen Santrić prikazao je fenomen autizma kroz priče i sudbine većeg broja obitelji i njihove djece. Zagreb, Split, Hvar, Čiovo, Novi Marof, Nedelišće, Berlin i Danville u Kaliforniji - gradovi su i mjesta u kojima žive protagonisti serijala, a zdravstvena, rehabilitacijska, psihološka i socijalna komponenta njihovog života povezana je autorskom potragom za odgovorom: koliko znamo o uzrocima, prevenciji i oporavku i što možemo učiniti.

1.epizoda: Prava istina

"Svaka istina prolazi kroz tri faze. Prvo je ismijana, zatim oštro osporavana, da bi naposlijetku bila prihvaćena kao samorazumljiva." Ovo je temeljna misao i nit vodilja epizode koja traga za uzrocima i objašnjenjem porasta broja djece kojoj se dijagnosticira autizam. Film čini dostupnim najnovije podatke i činjenice koje nikoga neće ostaviti ravnodušnim.

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Svi ste veoma dobri i isklrene duse koje zele pomoci i meni je drago sto sam na ovakvom forumu.Vec sam pisala Paji na pm aovde moram dodati da sojino mleko i jaja nisu dobra.Jaja se racunaju tecno meso a meso nije pozeljna ishrana za nas ljude jer nemamo konstituciju mesojedca.
Soja se preforsirano reklamira od strrane onih koji je proizvode,Aamerikanci i kinezi, i uopce nije najbolji izbor hrane.Slazem se sa Dijanom za zobno mleko A moze covjek sam napraviti bademovo mleko(nemojte ga kupovati).
Mleko je najbolja vrsta hrane ali d aje svezo od krave koja nije istretirana hormonima,antibioticima i svim i svacem.U svakom slucaju nije dobra kod autista ili onih koji su primili vakcine jer Ziva iz vakcina deluje na mozak i krvno-crevnu baruijeru i onda umesto amino kiselina u krv (iz creva ) se absorbiraju peptidi koji imaju uticaj na organizam slicno droga(na svoj nacin).Zato s emleko ne preporucuje dok se ne ocisti organizam od svega.Za srecu kod nas se prodaje sirovo mlijeko od krava koje nisu tretirane svim i svacim i prodaje se kao mlijeko za kupanje-zbog problema koje stvara mlecna industrija.Inace svako ga pije i zaista ima izvanredan ukus.
Inace mlijeko je najbolja hrana za mozak(a i kokos).POvecaj u ishrani bademe,orahe.
Zaboravila sam napomenuti na pm Paji za detoksikaciju od teskih metala -najbolja je Dr Clark.
Ne znam dali sma pisala o ovome ranije ali nema veze ponovicu- naime istreitrala sam energetski -pranom jednog petogodisnjeg decaka - uiglavnom sta sam uradila :ubila patogene mikroorganizme ( vakcinama postoje razni virusi),Ocistila energiju limfnog sistema i kostane srzi i ocsitila nekoliko gornjih cakri energizirala ih i rezultat je bio neverovatan.Mali koji uopce nije komunicirao sa okolinom i samo je gledaoi jedan isti program na Tv odjednom je poceo govoriti ,cajk je poceo i citati.Niko nije mogao verovati takvoj promeni ,pa cak ni ja .To je bilo takvo dobro iznenadjenje -prijatno.Rezultat je bio izvan svakog ocekivanja.
Jedino mu je ostao taj unutrsnji mali nemir i da ne moze da s ekoncentrira kako treba ali to ej bilo zbog toga sto teski metali nisu bili ocisceni.Cink je veoma vazan za uzimati ,kao i magnezijum i vit C.
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Postovani Pajo i ostali
Svi ste veoma dobri i isklrene duse koje zele pomoci i meni je drago sto sam na ovakvom forumu.Vec sam pisala Paji na pm aovde moram dodati da sojino mleko i jaja nisu dobra.Jaja se racunaju tecno meso a meso nije pozeljna ishrana za nas ljude jer nemamo konstituciju mesojedca.
Soja se preforsirano reklamira od strrane onih koji je proizvode,Aamerikanci i kinezi, i uopce nije najbolji izbor hrane.Slazem se sa Dijanom za zobno mleko A moze covjek sam napraviti bademovo mleko(nemojte ga kupovati).
Mleko je najbolja vrsta hrane ali d aje svezo od krave koja nije istretirana hormonima,antibioticima i svim i svacem.U svakom slucaju nije dobra kod autista ili onih koji su primili vakcine jer Ziva iz vakcina deluje na mozak i krvno-crevnu baruijeru i onda umesto amino kiselina u krv (iz creva ) se absorbiraju peptidi koji imaju uticaj na organizam slicno droga(na svoj nacin).Zato s emleko ne preporucuje dok se ne ocisti organizam od svega.Za srecu kod nas se prodaje sirovo mlijeko od krava koje nisu tretirane svim i svacim i prodaje se kao mlijeko za kupanje-zbog problema koje stvara mlecna industrija.Inace svako ga pije i zaista ima izvanredan ukus.
Inace mlijeko je najbolja hrana za mozak(a i kokos).POvecaj u ishrani bademe,orahe.
Zaboravila sam napomenuti na pm Paji za detoksikaciju od teskih metala -najbolja je Dr Clark.
Ne znam dali sma pisala o ovome ranije ali nema veze ponovicu- naime istreitrala sam energetski -pranom jednog petogodisnjeg decaka - uiglavnom sta sam uradila :ubila patogene mikroorganizme ( vakcinama postoje razni virusi),Ocistila energiju limfnog sistema i kostane srzi i ocsitila nekoliko gornjih cakri energizirala ih i rezultat je bio neverovatan.Mali koji uopce nije komunicirao sa okolinom i samo je gledaoi jedan isti program na Tv odjednom je poceo govoriti ,cajk je poceo i citati.Niko nije mogao verovati takvoj promeni ,pa cak ni ja .To je bilo takvo dobro iznenadjenje -prijatno.Rezultat je bio izvan svakog ocekivanja.
Jedino mu je ostao taj unutrsnji mali nemir i da ne moze da s ekoncentrira kako treba ali to ej bilo zbog toga sto teski metali nisu bili ocisceni.Cink je veoma vazan za uzimati ,kao i magnezijum i vit C.
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Ok slažemo se da se ne slažemo i to je Cool isto Po meni raznovrsna prehrana je ključna za razvoj deteta pa tako i meso moje komšije kinezi kao i većina azije su intolerantni na laktozu pa zato piju sojino mleko ,tu ne vidim ništa sporno jednostavno mleko ih čini bolesnima http://www.prijatelji-zivotinja.hr/index.hr.php?id=837 http://www.prijatelji-zivotinja.hr/i...r.php?id=261ja dete nebih nikako lišavao raznovrsne prehrane
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Ok slažemo se da se ne slažemo i to je Cool isto Po meni raznovrsna prehrana je ključna za razvoj deteta pa tako i meso moje komšije kinezi kao i većina azije su intolerantni na laktozu pa zato piju sojino mleko ,tu ne vidim ništa sporno jednostavno mleko ih čini bolesnima http://www.prijatelji-zivotinja.hr/index.hr.php?id=837 ja dete nebih nikako lišavao raznovrsne prehrane
Sve se svodi na individualne preference roditelji svakako znaju najbolje ,ali ne verujem u teorije urote sojinog mleka ,sojino sam mleko naveo samo tako slučajno inače obožavam ribu i piletinu -a acetil holinska veza nije mit
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Verujem da ovaj članak iz pubMed-a može barem malo pomoći

OBJECTIVE:

The impact of abnormal feeding behaviors reported for children with autism spectrum disorders (ASDs) on their nutritional status is unknown. We compared nutrient intake from food consumed by children with and without ASD and examined nutrient deficiency and excess.
METHODS:

Prospective 3-day food records and BMI for children (2-11 years) with ASD participating in the Autism Treatment Network (Arkansas, Cincinnati, Colorado, Pittsburgh, and Rochester) were compared with both the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey data and a matched subset based on age, gender, family income, and race/ethnicity (N = 252 analyzed food records).
RESULTS:

Children with ASD and matched controls consumed similar amounts of nutrients from food. Only children with ASD aged 4 to 8 years consumed significantly less energy, vitamins A and C, and the mineral Zn; and those 9 to 11 years consumed less phosphorous. A greater percentage of children with ASD met recommendations for vitamins K and E. Few children in either group met the recommended intakes for fiber, choline, calcium, vitamin D, vitamin K, and potassium. Specific age groups consumed excessive amounts of sodium, folate, manganese, zinc, vitamin A (retinol), selenium, and copper. No differences were observed in nutritional sufficiency of children given restricted diets. Children aged 2 to 5 years with ASD had more overweight and obesity, and children 5 to 11 years had more underweight.
CONCLUSIONS:

Children with ASD, like other children in America, consume less than the recommended amounts of certain nutrients from food. Primary care for all children should include nutritional surveillance and attention to BMI.
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Ok slažemo se da se ne slažemo i to je Cool isto Po meni raznovrsna prehrana je ključna za razvoj deteta pa tako i meso moje komšije kinezi kao i većina azije su intolerantni na laktozu pa zato piju sojino mleko ,tu ne vidim ništa sporno jednostavno mleko ih čini bolesnima http://www.prijatelji-zivotinja.hr/index.hr.php?id=837 http://www.prijatelji-zivotinja.hr/i...r.php?id=261ja dete nebih nikako lišavao raznovrsne prehrane
Bademovo ulje je OK , samo ako ne postoji alergija na badem i orase :)treba proveriti
Ma sasvim je ok sto se ne slazemo zato smo tu da ustvrdimo ono sto je najbolje i najistinitije jel da?
Bas si to lepo postavio i nisi bio uopce agresivan i podupro si svoje misljenje sa linkovima sa neta.
Sto s etice kineza,oni moraju piti soju jer nemaju dovoljno krava ,generacijama i generacijama.Moj prijatrelj kad je bio mali(1 godinu) imao je tako losu dijareju , da ne opisujem detalje,da je umalo umro i majka ga je poslala baki na selo koja ga je hranila samo svezim kravljim mlekom i preziveo je.Baka mu je jos bila kjako pobozna i ucila ga je puno o Bogu i on se i danas seca bake kao nesto najbolje u njegovom zivotu.
A kinezi jedu i pse,Jedan prijatelj sa Mauritanije(Mauritius) je rekao kad su kinezi dosli nma ostrvo sve su divlji ps nestali iz grada.Pa sad ti vidi ,meni nije nikakva preporuka jelo koje kinezi jedu.(kazem samo svoje argumente.)
Ali na neki nacin si u pravu danasnje mleko je toliko puta kuhano(pasterizirano ) da je potpuno bezivotno energijom -ima samo kemikalije (hocu reci ostala je samo biokemija u njemu) u sebi.
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Ok slažemo se da se ne slažemo i to je Cool isto Po meni raznovrsna prehrana je ključna za razvoj deteta pa tako i meso moje komšije kinezi kao i većina azije su intolerantni na laktozu pa zato piju sojino mleko ,tu ne vidim ništa sporno jednostavno mleko ih čini bolesnima http://www.prijatelji-zivotinja.hr/index.hr.php?id=837 http://www.prijatelji-zivotinja.hr/i...r.php?id=261ja dete nebih nikako lišavao raznovrsne prehrane
Bademovo ulje je OK , samo ako ne postoji alergija na badem i orase :)treba proveriti
kasnije cu pisati vise a za sada bih preeporucila da citate sa www.drmercola.com


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Sve se svodi na individualne preference roditelji svakako znaju najbolje ,ali ne verujem u teorije urote sojinog mleka ,sojino sam mleko naveo samo tako slučajno inače obožavam ribu i piletinu -a acetil holinska veza nije mit
Ljudi su svejedi ...http://www.marksdailyapple.com/meat-...man-evolution/ inače također su i viši primati i sve inteligentnije životinje...jedem meso samo retko(tj ,ribu dosta često) ,ali ni isključivo voće i povrće ne preferiram ...Moje mišljenje
samo citaj o soji ,posebno ona koja je GMO na Dr.Mercola com.
Za to sto su ljudi svejedi -jesu svejedi ali to nije njihova konstitucija -jedu zbog jezika a ne zato sto je to zdravo za njih i namenjeno njima za hranu.Opravdano je samo ako nemaju bas nikakvog izbora a moraju da odrze svoj zivot.

Pogledaj http://www.britishmeat.com/49.htm
http://harekrishna.com/col/books/VEG/hkvc1.html
http://www.meat.org/ pogledaj svea videa ukljucujuci meat is not green

o soji naucni report
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