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Nepročitano 19-01-19, 12:30   #91
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Forumska rasprava je jedno, a psihoterapija drugo.

Psihoterapijski proces je stručno usmjereni proces koji se odvija sukladno principima, a u središtu terapije je klijent sa svojim potrebama. Terapeut, a posebice, njegova uvjerenja, su sasvim u pozadini i on je educiran da ih može staviti u zagradu. To je naučena vještina, nikakva posebna moć.
Ako se dogodi da terapeut upadne u kontratransfer koji radi nesvjesno (izgubi svjesnost o ulozi koju vrši i osjeća reakciju na ono što govori klijent, a koja ga preuzima), onda može narušiti terapijski proces. No, ako je svjestan kontratransfera, onda može u terapiji napraviti izvrsne i klijentu vrlo korisne terapijske intervencije koje mu doista mogu pomoći.

Religijski terorizam koji je spomenut se može gledati kao projekcija onoga koji sebi ne može posvijestiti nesvjesnu želju da terorizira druge svojim duhovnim putovima, a baš to na svjesnoj razini niječe, pišući po forumu.

Zbog dečka koji je otvorio temu, treba ponoviti da je psihoterapijska podrška važna i potrebna, te mu zaista može pomoći na putu ozdravljenja.
No, kao i sve ljudsko, ograničena je; čovjeka istinski može preobraziti samo Bog. On čovjeka uvodi u stanje radosti, predokus punine i sjaja, razumskoga prosvjetljenja do mjere da može naslutiti spasenje u Bogu, a sve s ciljem da jednom bude u Njegovu kraljevstvu baštineći vječni život u ljubavi.


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Cijeli život mi je posvećen edukaciji, istraživanju, kritičkom promišljanju, izučavanju mnogih područja znanosti i mnogih disciplina, pa sve što govorim ima svoje duboko istražene i proučene temelje. Jer svoje stavove ne formiram temeljem indoktrinacije, nego kritičkog preispitivanja, logičkog zaključivanja i empirije.


Iz ovoga zaključujem da je cilj tvoje intervencije spram mene bio pisanje o samoj sebi.
Naravno, prije si udarala na mene kao čovjeka postavljajući pitanja o mome životu i kvalifikacijama; pritom, izlazeći posve iz teme u kojoj je dečko molio za pomoć.

Razumijem egoizam, razumijem i potrebu samopodrške, pa i gnjev kada se podrška ne dobije od okoline, ali mislim da je potrebno vratiti se na temu i čovjeku kojemu je potrebna pomoć.


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Nikako ne priliči razvijati diskusiju u ovm smjeru obzirom na poziv za pomoć koji je upućen. Rečeno je mišljenje koje je imalo za cilj da pomogne momku. A očigledno ima i dobar razlog zašto se diskusija ovako razvila. Nije ni to slučajno. Pa se sada pitam kome je ovdje potrebna pomoć?!
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Ja sam iznijela svoje mišljenje iz kršćanskoga, demonološko-biblijskoga i psihoterapeutskoga kuta.
Što se vama ono ne sviđa, nije moja stvar. To je vaše i nosite se s time.
Uoo je imao svoju preobrazbu i drago mi je da se Bogu vratio, a ja sam kršćanka - prije 9 godina kad sam se registrirala ovdje i sada.

Vidi se da biste htjeli da se momku preporučuju samo razne duhovne prakse (pregršt njih), ali morat će se pretrpjeti i kršćanski vid. Jedino ako vlasnik obriše kršćanski odgovor, no, momak je već nešto i pročitao.....


Nisam ja od jučer.
Znam ja dobro s kim ovdje imam posla;

zato i jesam odavno promijenila potpis......


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Nikome ne pomaže pritisak i uvjeravanje u nešto... Taj pristup pomoći, iz kojeg god ugla posmatrano, samo odmaže.
Sve što ljudima pomaže, što ih čini boljim i za sebe i za okolinu, ja pozdravljam.
Put do spoznaje je individualan. Put do vjere može da ide i iz ovog smjera, a i obratno. Pustimo ljude da nađu svoj put do čega već, a što će ih činiti sretnima i zdravima.
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Ja sam iznijela svoje mišljenje iz kršćanskoga, demonološko-biblijskoga i psihoterapeutskoga kuta.
Što se vama ono ne sviđa, nije moja stvar. To je vaše i nosite se s time.
Uoo je imao svoju preobrazbu i drago mi je da se Bogu vratio, a ja sam kršćanka - prije 9 godina kad sam se registrirala ovdje i sada.

Vidi se da biste htjeli da se momku preporučuju samo razne duhovne prakse (pregršt njih), ali morat će se pretrpjeti i kršćanski vid. Jedino ako vlasnik obriše kršćanski odgovor, no, momak je već nešto i pročitao.....


Nisam ja od jučer.
Znam ja dobro s kim ovdje imam posla;

zato i jesam odavno promijenila potpis......

Nije mi samo jasno što radite na Alternativa forumu. Znači, ovo je alternativni forum (no shit).

Ja nisam otišla na neki kršćanski forum sijat svoja stajališta , a osim toga i momak se javio upravo na ovaj forum.

Ne bih imala ništa protiv kršćanskih uvjerenja niti se ikada miješam u njih, vaš savjet mi je djelovao sasvim ok iz vašeg kuta gledišta, ali kad ste krenili insinuirat da smo mi svi zli- e, tu sam se morala javit.


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Eto čitatelji naši, u noćima pred pun mjesec...imali ste viđeti raznorazne psihičke poremećaje, pa i ljudska sitna i krupna zla i klevete, malo zdravog razuma i teorija i kada smo mislili da ne može gore stigao je netko tko je cijeli forum bombardirao i svojim beskorisnim i umobolnim, otpadom...
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Nikome ja nisam rekla da je zao, već sam govorila o duhovnim praksama i njihovim opasnostima. To što je forum alternative, to ne znači da se pretplatio na jednoumlje.

Treba razlikovati zlo kao fenomen, zao čin i Zloga.

Čovjek može činiti zle čine, to ne znači da je zao čovjek u cijelosti kao osoba i biće.
To što kršćanstvo nazivate otpadom i raznim drugim imenima (a mene bolesnicom i drugim imenima), vaša stvar.
Mene to ne pogađa jer ja znam tko sam, u što vjerujem i čemu se nadam.
Pisat ću i dalje, a vi zovite vlasnicu foruma - pa neka me fizički s foruma eliminira u svrhu razvoja jednoumlja.
Onda se samospoznajite vlastitim naporom, a kad vam dođu osobe po pomoć koje su dozvale kaos, patnju i bolest koristeći mnoge duhovne prakse, vi im proširite interval praksi kako bi napredovale u bolesti.
Jer što bi išle polako kad mogu brzo - u propast!


Hvala Bogu da je dečko bar onu zaposjednutu kamenčugu od crnog opsidijana nakon kojega mu je pozlilo zavijario daleko od sebe.......


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Ne brini naftali tvoju su "bolest" i Jesam i Qiqe razotkrile i u detalje razložile.

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Hvala Bogu da je dečko bar onu zaposjednutu kamenčugu od crnog opsidijana nakon kojega mu je pozlilo zavijario daleko od sebe.......
To je bilo tuđe kristalizirano tijelo, a ne zaposjednuti kamen...a priča iza je mračna, tužna i ružna...budalasta li si, u svojim samoobmanama.

Nadalje, zemlja je odavno pretvorena u pakao, a živi odavno nisu živi...ništa novo...uskoro će reset.
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