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Nepročitano 16-01-19, 16:26   #31
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Bog ne smije spasit čovjeka. Čovjek morq spasit sam sebe. Čovjek napokon mora preuzeti odgovornost za sebe i svoj život, za pogreške koje je učinio, sagledat ih u potpunosti i oprostiti sam sebi.
Najlakše je reći " bog ce pomoći, bog će oprostit, bog će dati..." S time samo skidamo vlastitu odgovornost sa sebe i nikada se zapravo ne suočavamo sa sobom.

Nikada nigdje nisam vidjela toliko krvoprolića, bratoubojstava, djecoubojstava kao u Bibliji. Kakav je to bog koji kaže "idite tamo i pobijte one narode, silujte im žene...?! Bog koji je željan krvi. Bog koji zabranjuje, kažnjava, ubija. " Vječno ćete gorit u paklu" zastrašuje.

Istočnjačke religije su vrlo blagonaklone prema čovjeku i njegovoj vlastitoj patnji, uce ga da usmjeri fokus unutar sebe, da prebrodi patnju sam, svojim mukama i da se rodi nanovo (metaforički) transformiran i svjesniji sve do konačne pune samosvjesti (prosvjetljenja). A to je katoličkoj crkvi najveća prijetnja. Samosvjestan covjek. Takav čovjek ne može završiti na psihijatriji.


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Bravo Qiqe - odlično poentirano!

Istočnjačke duhovne prakse su usmjerene na ljubav, mir, toleranciju, nenasilje, suživot s prirodom i svim drugim božjim stvorenjima, obziran odnos prema planetu, samoizgradnju i napredak ljudske duše i svijesti, na propitkivanje i istraživanje te na pronalaženje odgovora unutar sebe - ono što zapravo i jest naša zadaća u ovom životnom kolu. Izaći iz njega ... samsara.

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Kao prvo, prvi je momak trezio pomoc oko demona i egzorcizma.
Naftali nigde nije pominjala katolicku religiju osim da je ona katolicki teolog. Pominjala je veru.
Momak je pravoslavac. Pretpostavljam iz beograda ali to nije bitno.
I da bi mu vera pomogla pre nego kristali. To je njen stav i ima pravo na njega.
ova tema nije otvorena za prepucavanja oki religija bilo koje vrste.
procitajte ponovo prv i post ovog momka i nacin na koji je pisan. Videcete da mu je neophodna pomoc. Ozbiljna pomoc. A ne prepirke oko biblije i pedofila.
ako mozete -pomozite. Ako ne mozete nemojte ubijati dosadu.
nekome je pomoc neophodna...
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Kao prvo, prvi je momak trezio pomoc oko demona i egzorcizma.
Naftali nigde nije pominjala katolicku religiju osim da je ona katolicki teolog. Pominjala je veru.
Momak je pravoslavac. Pretpostavljam iz beograda ali to nije bitno.
I da bi mu vera pomogla pre nego kristali. To je njen stav i ima pravo na njega.
ova tema nije otvorena za prepucavanja oki religija bilo koje vrste.
procitajte ponovo prv i post ovog momka i nacin na koji je pisan. Videcete da mu je neophodna pomoc. A ne prepirke oko biblije i pedofila.
ako mozete -pomozite. Ako ne mozete nemojte ubijati dosadu.
nekome je pomoc neophodna...
I sada... i sutra.
I ja sam mu lijepo napisala što smatram da će mu pomoć, kao i Jesam. Jesmo li ili nismo Olio?

A onda je Naftali rekla kako je jedina pomoć isus krist i kako ga "ova gore gospođa zeli uvući još dublje u to ( valjda misli demonizam).


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Također, bog pomogao vama. Lijep pozdrav.


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Prema onome što piše, mislim da je ovaj momak dovoljno pametan da shvati mnoge stvari i da se potrudi sebi naći rješenje.

Nema univerzalnog lijeka, pa će tako nekome biti dobro jedno sredstvo ili metoda a drugom nešto drugo.

Ja sam ponudila čitav niz opcija, nakon čega se Naftalin javila s uvredljivim i sasvim nepotrebnim postom u kojem je popljuvala sve što nije kršćansko. I sad, nema veze s temom ali ne dozvoljavam da se pišu gluposti o stvarima koje jako dobro znam.

Da je samo napisala svoje mišljenje da su bog ili krist jedino rješenje problema - nikom ništa. Ima pravo na svoje mišljenje. Ali kad krene dirati ono u čiju sam ispravnost i čistoću uvjerena, onda će dobiti istom mjerom.

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hoce li (bog) pomoci?
moguce. Kamenje nece. Izbeljivac mms nece.
A ovo tvrdiš temeljem točno čega??? Kako ti znaš da neće? Jesi li probao ili se smatraš bogom da znaš sve?


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Ako si moderator na drugom forumu mene nećeš moderirati.
Fućka se meni za nečiju moderaturu na bilo kojem forumu.....
Važnije je spasenje čovjeka od uštogljenih manira.
Dao Bog da se ovaj čovjek vrati iz tame kamenja, zjala bezdana i patnje duše u ljepotu Božjega svijeta, svjetlosti i blagotvornoga sjaja.
Čovjek treba preuzeti odgovornost za sebe i spasenje svoje duše, vratiti se u okrilje svoga Stvoritelja koji će ga uzdignuti tamo gdje on sam sebe ne može.


Nikakvim kamenjima, mantrama, stupnjevima, naporima, drogama, ...itd. to nije moguće.


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