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Nepročitano 19-01-19, 10:18   #81
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"Veliki umovi raspravljaju o idejama. Srednji umovi raspravljaju o događajima. Sitni umovi raspravljaju o ljudima." E.Roosevelt


Tko si ti ženo?
Ne poznajem te.


Pišem o duhovnim praksama, dajem argumente i pokušavam savjetovati mladoga čovjeka koji je zaglibio zbog okultnih tehnika i praksi koje su ga zaokupile i vrlo mu naštetile.


To što su se neke osobe ovdje uvrijedile na moje mišljenje o duhovnim tehnikama, to me ne zanima.
Imam pravo na mišljenje.


Neka je Bog svakome na pomoći jer jedino On i može pomoći s obzirom da je naš Stvoritelj, poznaje nas i svemoguć je.


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Autogeni trening je zlo jer uvodi čovjeka u grijeh samodostatnosti i misao da može svojim snagama postići ozdravljenje. Time još više, luciferijanski, tone na dno.
Samo da još i ovu ludost iskomentiram.

Naravno da je crkvi u interesu da su ljudi ovce čim duže, nesvjesni sebe i svoje snage. Čim duže su ovisni o tamo nekom entitetu kojeg nitko nije nikad vidio ni čuo (i čije su porijeklo i kvaliteta uopće upitni, ako govorimo o biblijskom bogu), tim duže će crkva moći živjeti od njihovih para, bez rada i muke.

Znaš li koliko je vrijedan Vatikan???Kako je stekao svoje bogatstvo?

Pljačkom, krvlju, kriminalom i ratovima, progonima tzv heretika i oduzimanjem njihove imovine, suradnjom s nacistima i mafijom itd. Sve jako dobro poznato!

Prema tome, idi prodaj svoje pričice nekom tko ima dva graška u glavi umjesto mozga. Meni ne možeš. Cijeli život mi je posvećen edukaciji, istraživanju, kritičkom promišljanju, izučavanju mnogih područja znanosti i mnogih disciplina, pa sve što govorim ima svoje duboko istražene i proučene temelje. Jer svoje stavove ne formiram temeljem indoktrinacije, nego kritičkog preispitivanja, logičkog zaključivanja i empirije.

Da, teško je s ovakvima, jel' da? Ne moš ih natjerat u tor nikako. Niti zaplašiti demonima i sotonom. Stvarno velik problem.

Ne kažem da ne postoje sotonističke prakse u svijetu i razne sekte s psihopatskim liderima, ali to nema apsolutno nikakve veze s onim što sam ja navela - NI-KAK-VE!


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"Veliki umovi raspravljaju o idejama. Srednji umovi raspravljaju o događajima. Sitni umovi raspravljaju o ljudima." E.Roosevelt
Super! Još jedan citat čije značenje očigledno ne razumiješ.

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Tko si ti ženo?
Ne poznajem te.
Ja sam žena kojoj ne možeš prodavati maglu. To je dovoljno da znaš. A kad si krenula sa svojim gromom i paklom, onda si me uvukla u diskusiju.
Trebam li još pojasniti?

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Pišem o duhovnim praksama, dajem argumente i pokušavam savjetovati mladoga čovjeka koji je zaglibio zbog okultnih tehnika i praksi koje su ga zaokupile i vrlo mu naštetile.
Netočno! Nikakve argumente nisi dala osim što si rekla da poznaš neke ljude koji su prolupali od autogenog i homeopatije(SIC!) !?!? Homeopatije???? Zbilja???

I to nazivaš "okultnom" tehnikom??? Pa ti nemaš pojma ni što okultno znači - očigledno!


Nevjerojatno! Sve jedno bolje od drugog. Cirkus!


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I još da dodam:
onaj tko nije u zajedništvu s Bogom ima se razloga bojati zloduha.
Oni daju mrvice moći na početku, ali kasnije traže - neodgodivo i bezuvjetno.
To se jasno može i vidjeti u videu koji sam stavila par upisa prije. (John Ramirez)
Oni su posebice, aktivni u dubokoj noći. Nekad se uprisutnjuju na duhovan način, a nekad dođu u obličju životinje (npr.psa....pogledati sv.Padre Pio). Ne spavajte s psima u istoj postelji! (sodomija)

Grijeh je izvorište boli, patnje i bolesti. Božja ljubav i milost preporađa, ali za to je potrebno čovjekovo kajanje za učinjeno zlo.
Treba se odreći zla - jasno i nedvojbeno, te prionuti k Bogu u zagrljaj.


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Još nešto - ti si psihoterapeut? Stvarno?

Koje kvalifikacije imaš? Jer čisto sumnjam da si završila medicinu, pa čak niti psihologiju, s obzirom da ti znanstvena istraživanja i činjenice ne predstavljaju ništa niti uopće razumiješ taj koncept.

Vjerojatno ti je crkva dodijelila neku titulicu temeljem položenog vjeronauka pa sad ljude uvjeravaš u to da su ih opsjeli demoni, a ljudi su ozbiljno bolesni. Užaš i sramota. To je nešto što bi uistino neko ministarstvo trebalo istraživati.

Niti jedna metoda koju sam spomenula nema veze s religijom.

Ako išta, onda sve čak i odobravaju vjeru u boga ili višu silu - kako god to nazvali.

Zato, i opet, pokazuješ svoje neznanje o temi o kojoj tako naprasito želiš govoriti i u kojoj tako autoritativno nastupaš a o kojoj evidentno nemaš blagog pojma.


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Koje kvalifikacije imaš?


Ti uporno trolaš temu pisanjem o meni.
Nebitno je tko sam ja, premda jesam certificirani psihoterapeut s diplomom koja ne važi samo u RH, već u cijeloj EU.


Ministarstvo zdravstva treba pokrenuti istrage nad mnogim pseudoiscjeljiteljima koji ljudima s tjelesnim, psihičkim i duhovnim poteškoćama/problemima savjetuju opasne metode i tehnike koje ga još više bacaju u okove bolesti, patnje i u konačnici, u duhovnu smrt.



Od početka sam pisala kao kršćanin, to sam podvukla na početku, preporučujući čovjeku nastavak terapije klasične medicine, odbacivanje opasnih duhovnih praksi (one jesu duhovne, a ne fizičke) i povratak Gospodinu Isusu Kristu koji je jedini kadar razriješiti čvor kojega su stvorila nadnaravna bića prisutna u mnogim tehnikama.


Sa žaljenjem gledam na ovaj forum koji se pretvorio u mjesto propasti za čovjeka.


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To se zove kršćanski psihološki terorizam, i boga pitaj koliko je ljudi duhovno propalo i još propada od njihovog ispiranja mozga, od njihovog autoritativnog boga i sijanja dubokog straha u podsvijest, a to maltretiranje kreće od malih nogu, jer dijeca su najlakši plijen, siju svoje strahove u krhke dječije umove.
Vi ste pošast ovog društva, i tek kad se iskorijeni ovakvo organizirano pranje mozgova čovječanstvo će se moći napokon baviti sobom i moći ce spoznati sebe, ali tek kada se riješi duboko ukorijenjenih strahova koje su nam implementirani od strane crkve.

Čovjek je božansko biće, biće koje teži slobodi, jedinstvu sa svime čega je dio. Vi odvajate čovjeka od jedinstva, stavljate ga u vlasništvo vašeg autoritativnog boga da pogne glavu i misli kako je mali, jadan, nemoćan... Strašno!

Koliko izbezumljenih duša gledam svaki dan oko sebe, formiraju se u grupe i onda zajedno pohode mise, a ni jedan od njih ne razmišlja svojom glavom nego je pod utiecajem svega onog šta ste mu programirali u glavu.
Meni je iskreno žao takvih ljudi.

Nikakav napredak ovo društvo nije doživjelo vec tisućljećima pod kršćanskom čizmom. Nikakav!

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Ne cini li vam se da je trenutna situacija na forumu previse degutantna za postove?
Qiqe, nikada ti se nisam nikako ruzno obratio na forumu niti sam lose mislio o tvojim postovima. Ok?
naftali znam predobro. I pre nego je postala psihoterapeut. Pre vise godina.
Veoma je inteligentna i obrazovana osoba. Njene stavove ne komentarisem.

Jesam... nadam se da ne mislis da sam JA pobunjivao one jadnike tamo...?
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olio, meni to brisanje/ pisanje tekstova izgleda pomalo nestabilno. Vrlo dobro si ti meni dao do znanja gdje si me smijestio sa onim "curo". Postavio si se iznad, i voliš se postavljat kao autoritet koji zna sve i ne možeš a da ne odolis da tvoja ne bude zadnja.

Naftali ne poznajem, ne ulazim u njeno obarzovanje i kompetenciju, svakako nije kompetetnta da govori drugima da su sotonjare i da odvlače momka dublje u ponor jer - nije bog. Zašto govori u ime Boga?
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olio, meni to brisanje/ pisanje tekstova izgleda pomalo nestabilno. Vrlo dobro si ti meni dao do znanja gdje si me smijestio sa onim "curo". Postavio si se iznad, i voliš se postavljat kao autoritet koji zna sve i ne možeš a da ne odolis da tvoja ne bude zadnja.

Naftali ne poznajem, ne ulazim u njeno obarzovanje i kompetenciju, svakako nije kompetetnta da govori drugima da su sotonjare i da odvlače momka dublje u ponor jer - nije bog. Zašto govori u ime Boga?
Odakle tolikq oholost?
Ako napisem nesto pa ostavim vreme da vi procitate a zatim obrisem nije nestabilno vec ne zelim ostaviti i prljati temu. Ne mozes me uvrediti jer znam sta radim. Mozes samo vredjati. To ne govori o meni vec o tebi.
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Ne poznajem te...
poneke znam (licno) pa im se ne obtacam na isti nacin jer ih znam.
ope ti pominjem da te nisam hteo uvrediti. Mozda deluje da jesam. Nisam. Ali neki nivo moram drzati, zar ne?
ne znam sve... ali znam dosta. Zar je samouverenost greh?
nikada na ovom forumu nisam pisao na temama koje ne poznajem. To je dokaz da se ne "pravim pametan " tamo gde pojma nemam o cemu se radi. Niti me zanima. Nisam prestar. Stariji od tebe desetak + 2-3... dovoljno da te oslovljavam neformalno. Nismo na simpozijumu o nuklearnom naoruzanju. Mada je tema ozbiljna.

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