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Nepročitano 23-10-15, 14:04   #261
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Je, samo TKO će educirati roditelje kako educirati djecu? Većina roditelja je sama u banani i rade kardinalne pogreške u odgoju.

Zato sam rekla škola ... crkva - čisto sumnjam. U posljednjih 2000 godina nije pokazala volju bilo koga educirati.

U svakom slučaju, netko mora započeti proces - netko s autoritetom.
Pa očigledno autoriteti po ovom pitanju su bez učinka. Naravno da je odgovornost roditelja prioritetna pa i po pitanju osvještavanja samih sebe, kako bi pomogli svojoj djeci. Naravno, ako se tako odluči.
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Je, samo TKO će educirati roditelje kako educirati djecu? Većina roditelja je sama u banani i rade kardinalne pogreške u odgoju.

Zato sam rekla škola ... crkva - čisto sumnjam. U posljednjih 2000 godina nije pokazala volju bilo koga educirati.

U svakom slučaju, netko mora započeti proces - netko s autoritetom.

U Crkvu sumnjam 500%, dok u školu samo 99%...

Ovo jest sarkazam, ali ne i paranoja...

Ne znam kome to danas (kao da ikada i jesu ikome? ) odgovaraju educirane, osvještene, zrele osobe samostalne za stajanje na isključivo vlastitim nogama, uz razmišljanje vlastitim umom i čvrste, bez okretanja kako vjetar puše?

Pa to su prave tempirane bombe - i za crkvu i za demokratiju i za ikakve sustave, hijerarhije i slične pi7darije...

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Da, i onda to bude začarani krug ... ali NETKO mora započeti proces, inače ...

A tko? Pa, oni osvješteniji, educiraniji ... samo je pitanje hoće li im to biti omogućeno u okviru redovnih edukacijskih ustanova ili će se organizirati u "vannastavnim aktivnostima".
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Da, i onda to bude začarani krug ... ali NETKO mora započeti proces, inače ...

A tko? Pa, oni osvješteniji, educiraniji ... samo je pitanje hoće li im to biti omogućeno u okviru redovnih edukacijskih ustanova ili će se organizirati u "vannastavnim aktivnostima".
pa nikada nije kasno početi sama rješavati svoje probleme. I ovaj dio virtualnog prostora je upravo tome namijenjen, ljudi dolaze sa problemima i pokušavaju ih riješiti ...na 'alternativni' način. Neki uspiju, neki djelomično a neki ne, ovisno od količine istine koju si dozvole. Netko je uvijek sama ta osoba koja čeka neku pomoć i rješenje izvana, a to ne dolazi, jer je količina nasilja oko nas ( i u nama) sve veća.
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Naravno, ali to vrijedi za odrasle. Ne možeš očekivati od djece da ta isti način preuzmu odgovornost. A nasilje i nasilno ponašanje se treba sprečavati odmalena i na taj način odgajati novu, emocionalno zdravu i stabilnu generaciju roditelja koji će moći svoju djecu ispravno odgajati.
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Naravno, ali to vrijedi za odrasle. Ne možeš očekivati od djece da ta isti način preuzmu odgovornost.
Naravno, djeca zato trebaju odrasle roditelje, da ih zaštite, podižu i odgoje u zrele i samostalne zdrave osobe. No djeca se ne rađaju kada roditelji osvijeste neke stvari , oni jednostavno dođu da bi upravo pomogli roditeljima da počnu rješavati životne probleme. Što više djece , više pomoći.........paradoksalno,ali još uvijek neprepoznatljivo. I da, taj put je najteži.
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Naravno, djeca zato trebaju odrasle roditelje, da ih zaštite, podižu i odgoje u zrele i samostalne zdrave osobe. No djeca se ne rađaju kada roditelji osvijeste neke stvari , oni jednostavno dođu da bi upravo pomogli roditeljima da počnu rješavati životne probleme. Što više djece , više pomoći.........paradoksalno,ali još uvijek neprepoznatljivo. I da, taj put je najteži.
More bit, ali jako puno roditelja nikad ne shvati tu lekciju niti iskoristi danu priliku.

Naravno, opet na štetu djece i svih budućih generacija i tako se nevolja perpetuira.
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More bit, ali jako puno roditelja nikad ne shvati tu lekciju niti iskoristi danu priliku.

Naravno, opet na štetu djece i svih budućih generacija i tako se nevolja perpetuira.
Tak je nažalost. No i to je odluka i odabir.
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