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Nepročitano 26-02-15, 16:32   #21
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Imala sam perioda (podužih) kada sam se osjećala kao faraon. U biti, poveći dio života...

Ali ono za šta bih sve svoje tadašnje "piramide" dala, nikada nije funkcioniralo - dom.

Kad sam shvatila koliko je sve ovo drugo lažno (u mome primjeru, ne generaliziram), prestalo me je biti briga hoće li "ikad biti kao onda". Čak se i vrlo rijetko sjetim tih lovorika...

U biti, Bama je iznio srž...

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Slažem se. Ali mene i dalje zanima da li je određena sposobnost koja se manifestirala u nekoj životnoj dobi ili samo trenutku splet okolnosti ili potencijal koji je konstantni dio osobnosti i koji se može prizvati u određenim okolnostima!?
rekao bih da je to s jedne strane stvar perspektive jer potencijal opet treba okolnost da se manifestira, a sa druge da je tesko ista zaista smatrati konstantom u tako prolaznom svijetu (mozda neke fundamentalne fizikalne zakonitosti), eventualno nesto ponekad bude relativno (u odnosu na nas ili nesto sa cim usporedjujemo) trajnije i upornije ali nista nije konstanta. Obicna fizicka povreda glave moze tolko toga promjenit.


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rekao bih da je to s jedne strane stvar perspektive jer potencijal opet treba okolnost da se manifestira, a sa druge da je tesko ista zaista smatrati konstantom u tako prolaznom svijetu (mozda neke fundamentalne fizikalne zakonitosti), eventualno nesto ponekad bude relativno (u odnosu na nas ili nesto sa cim usporedjujemo) trajnije i upornije ali nista nije konstanta. Obicna fizicka povreda glave moze tolko toga promjenit.

Vrlo lako je je nešto smatrat i dokazat konstantom. Jabuka uvijek pada na tlo, skakanje sa 13-tog kata završava smrću, nijedan čovjek nije doživio 200-tu, kad umreš onda se više nikad ne vraćaš živ.....primjeri idu u beskraj. Zapravo, malo toga je što se ne može uokvirit u konstantu. Ostaje nam samo za otkrit koliko još konstanti ima.

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jabuka pada na tlo samo u zemljinoj atmosferi (a i tu se moze utjecat ako je u izdvojenom sustavu), bilo je prezivljavanja padova iz aviona. Starost mozda tehnologija promjeni. Jedino je smrt izvjesna, iako religije imaju svakakva misljenja o tome.

Da bi jabuka pala treba se masu toga poklopit od fizikalnih uvjeta na zemlji preko bioloskih nastanka jabuka i te jabuke do specificnih okolnosti (vjetar, potres, zivotinje, sazrijevanje) da padne bas u datoj situaciji pri cemu vjerojatno nikad ne nastaju dvije savrseno identicne jabuke niti savrseno identicna pada.


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jabuka pada na tlo samo u zemljinoj atmosferi
Čovjek živi samo u Zemljinoj atmosferi.

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bilo je prezivljavanja padova iz aviona.
Bilo je i bit će. Jel to znači da čovjek može skočit iz aviona bez padobrana? Što će tvoja praksa biti? Bez ili sa padobranom?


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Starost mozda tehnologija promjeni.
Dok se tehnologija i okolnosti ne promijene nemamo razloga razmišljat drugačije. Možemo samo nagađat.


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Jedino je smrt izvjesna, iako religije imaju svakakva misljenja o tome.
Kakogod, mrtav nije oživio.

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Da bi jabuka pala treba se masu toga poklopit od fizikalnih uvjeta na zemlji preko bioloskih nastanka jabuka i te jabuke do specificnih okolnosti (vjetar, potres, zivotinje, sazrijevanje) da padne bas u datoj situaciji pri cemu vjerojatno nikad ne nastaju dvije savrseno identicne jabuke niti savrseno identicna pada.[/quote]

Jabuka pada na tlo. Vjerujem da se obojica slažemo sa time.


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Ja ne mogu a da si ne postavim pitanje, jesam li i to ja ili sam ja samo danas?
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Pa i ekstremne situacije izvlače samo postojeće. Morala si biti to što je takva situacija izvukla iz tebe. Dakle to jesi ti.
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Ako se tvoj komentar veže za moj uvodni post onda bih rekao da ja nisam mislio na ulazak u savršenu zonu gdje je sve automatski riješeno.
Mislio sam na zonu gdje neki teški i dugotrajni problemi imaju vrlo slab utjecaj. Ne osjećaš tištenje, blokadu već glatko kliziš društvenim bespućima. Na vlastitu nevjericu, ljudi gotovo kao da su plaćeni da ti idu pod ruku. Čak i najljući neprijatelji djeluju smanjenog kapaciteta.
Pokušavam zamisliti takvo stanje i teoretski mogu, ali samo teoretski jer nemam osobno takvih iskustava. A vjerujem da ih nemam jer nemam očekivanja pa onda i nema razočarenja.

Mislim da je tajna u tome da se prihvaća sve što dolazi, bez otpora, bez osuđivanja i onda je logična posljedica dojam kako "sve klizi" ... jer nema opozita koji bi davao drugačiju sliku.


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Pokušavam zamisliti takvo stanje i teoretski mogu, ali samo teoretski jer nemam osobno takvih iskustava. A vjerujem da ih nemam jer nemam očekivanja pa onda i nema razočarenja.

Mislim da je tajna u tome da se prihvaća sve što dolazi, bez otpora, bez osuđivanja i onda je logična posljedica dojam kako "sve klizi" ... jer nema opozita koji bi davao drugačiju sliku.
pokušaj tu "tajnu" gdje se sve prihvaća i "sve klizi" primjeniti na prehrani.. rezultat je bolesno tijelo.. baš kao što je rezultat te iste taktike primjenjene na duh.. bolestan duh..

neke stvari ipak treba oštro odbaciti.. oduprijeti se.. prihvaćati sve bez otpora nije mudro ni zdravo..


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