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Nepročitano 15-07-15, 16:01   #31
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Nakon sta je aparat pokazao ravnu liniju i kirurzi se uskomesali krenuo sam dalje..Neznam kako da ti opisem,"vidio" sam svjetlosne siluete a ne osobe niti nekakve svece,Isuse,majke bozje ali sam ih mogao prepoznati tako da kazem.
Sve te duse oko tebe,osjeca se velika ljubav,zajednistvo...Nitko me nije upozoravao da nesmijem prijeci liniju zivota i smrti,jednostavno sam znao da je vrijeme za povratak.
Sveukupno sam bio "mrtav" 22 minute,tako su rekli kasnije kad sam se oporavio.
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Jesi li još šta tamo doživio?
Šta se nakon toga promijenilo u tvojoj percepciji? Načinu života?
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dok mi je otac umirao, smrti sam pogledala u lice.
To je promjenilo kompletno moj dozivljaj i strah od iste.

Kada netko tako polagano odlazi, velika je cast kad mozes gledati sve njene faze, promatrati, pomagati, ili samo biti prisutna.
Faze smrti su fascinantne. I to kako smrt pripremi tijelo na to sto slijedi, kako ga mentalno pripremi, pa duhovno i tjelesno..
Faze rastakanja elemenata u tijelu su isto fascinantne. Obrnut proces u odnosu na rodjenje.

Zadnji se rastace element zraka, ali kad se i on rastoci, ostaje jos suptilno disanje... A zatim metamorfoza zavrsava. Ostaje samo ljustura.
NAdam se da nece biti pogresno protumaceno ov sto cu izneti.
Svako ima svoj stav, a istina je jedna... znao je ja.. ili vi... ili niko.. za sada!

NEma tamo i ovde! Smrt, kao klinicka, je samo naucni izraz za nefunkcionisanje organizma. Smrt je TRAJNO STANJE! KRAJ!
Ako neko ima klinicku smrt, ne znaci da je mrtav, sve dok ne umre...
utopljenika 2 sata mozemo pokusavati oziveti, i tek nakon toga se smatra da je mrtav. Neko koga raznese bomba je odmah mrtav, jer ga ne mozemo oziveti...
samim tim, smrt je ljudska kategorija za nepovratno stanje nakon zivota.
Imam iskustvo sa najblizim koji su umirali pored mene... ali nemam nameru o tome ovde, jer ne pricam ni o svojoj ni o bilo cijoj smrti ili zivotu, vec o generalnom shvatanju smrti.
Dusa..? Tema stara koliko i covek... zivot posle smrti... i tako dalje....
nema znacaj sta ja mislim ili znam... nego sta me plasi kada je smrt u pitanju.
Nikada ne mogu prihvatiti da dete, bilo koje, dete je dete, umre.. NIkada! i imam uzasan STRAH od takve smrti. (tako se zove tema) Ako umre baka ili deka, u svojoj postelji, u dubokoj starosti, nakon ispunjenog zivota, to je normalno, tugovali mi ili ne, i nemam strah od takve smrti, jer se ona NE MOZE izbeci!
Strah od sopstvene smrti......... mogu li ja umreti? Ne...... Samo otici.....
Cemu strah

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Nikada ne mogu prihvatiti da dete, bilo koje, dete je dete, umre.. NIkada! i imam uzasan STRAH od takve smrti. (tako se zove tema)
Zašto imaš strah od smrti djeteta - pa odavno nisi više dijete.

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Ako umre baka ili deka, u svojoj postelji, u dubokoj starosti, nakon ispunjenog zivota, to je normalno, tugovali mi ili ne, i nemam strah od takve smrti, jer se ona NE MOZE izbeci!
Znači, misliš da se neka smrt može izbjeći?

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Strah od sopstvene smrti......... mogu li ja umreti? Ne...... Samo otici.....
Cemu strah
Šta onda na kraju ... jel se odlazi il se umire?

Kakva je suštinska razlika između dedine, tvoje i djetetove smrti? Smrt je smrt - samo je subjekt različit. Prema smrti imaš neki odnos ili stav - nema 3 različite smrti. Ona je uvijek odumiranje fizičkog tijela.


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NEma tamo i ovde! Smrt, kao klinicka, je samo naucni izraz za nefunkcionisanje organizma. Smrt je TRAJNO STANJE! KRAJ!
Ako neko ima klinicku smrt, ne znaci da je mrtav, sve dok ne umre...
utopljenika 2 sata mozemo pokusavati oziveti, i tek nakon toga se smatra da je mrtav. Neko koga raznese bomba je odmah mrtav, jer ga ne mozemo oziveti...
samim tim, smrt je ljudska kategorija za nepovratno stanje nakon zivota.
Koliko ja znam, upravo to znači. Kada nemaš nikakvih vitalnih znakova života. Kada srce ne kuca, nema moždane aktivnosti niti dišeš. Zna se da čovjek već nakon par minuta nedisanja ima nepovratnu štetu na mozgu - a može biti klinički mrtav sat vremena i da se nakon toga vrati, ne samo bez oštećenja, nego i ozdravljen od eventualnih (teških) bolesti.

Kod fizičkog uništenja tijela je malo drugačije - naprosto zato što je "vozilo" totalka i nepovratno razoreno pa se duša više nema u što vratiti.


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Zašto imaš strah od smrti djeteta - pa odavno nisi više dijete.



Znači, misliš da se neka smrt može izbjeći?



Šta onda na kraju ... jel se odlazi il se umire?

Kakva je suštinska razlika između dedine, tvoje i djetetove smrti? Smrt je smrt - samo je subjekt različit. Prema smrti imaš neki odnos ili stav - nema 3 različite smrti. Ona je uvijek odumiranje fizičkog tijela.
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Koliko ja znam, upravo to znači. Kada nemaš nikakvih vitalnih znakova života. Kada srce ne kuca, nema moždane aktivnosti niti dišeš. Zna se da čovjek već nakon par minuta nedisanja ima nepovratnu štetu na mozgu - a može biti klinički mrtav sat vremena i da se nakon toga vrati, ne samo bez oštećenja, nego i ozdravljen od eventualnih (teških) bolesti.

Kod fizičkog uništenja tijela je malo drugačije - naprosto zato što je "vozilo" totalka i nepovratno razoreno pa se duša više nema u što vratiti.
pozdrav draga "Jesam", znam za tvoj snazan stav, ali imam ga i ja

ne mislim na sopstvenu, vec na smrt generalno, jer naziv teme ne nagovestava obavezno na sopstvenu smrt. Svaka smrt jer drugacija, i druga prica, bar ja tako gledam na stvar. ne pricam o tehnickom pojmu (ima vise dokaza da cuvenih 8 minuta moze biti i trajnije, mislim na ostecenja mozga usled nedostatka kiseonika, narocito kada je temperatura niza, ali ne ulazim u to, druga tema)
vec pricam o filozofskom pojmu smrti. Ne zaboravi da je smrt pojam koji se mora shvatiti, a da bi ga shvatili morate biti svesni....
maleni puzic nikada nece biti svestan smrti, ni njegove, ni icije...
kao sto ni mi nismo svesni smrti oko nas, bar ne svega sto umire, bila to koka spremna za nasu trpezu, ili bakterija koju ubijemo kada upotrebimo alkohol za brisanje ruku....

ne pominjem dusu... druga prica. Ako imam dusu, ne umirem, zar ne?

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ne pominjem dusu... druga prica. Ako imam dusu, ne umirem, zar ne?
Upravo tako. (Ali to je ista priča.)

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