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Nije ugodno da odjednom nestaneš. Sve što si radio je u jednom trenutku nestalo. Nema ničega osim par suza na groblju.
Ja sam si to uvijek zamislila kao da zaspiš samo se više ne probudiš.

Nije ništa neugodno ... kad te više nema, briga te što se dalje dešava, tko plače a tko ne plače. Mislim, jel se u snu brineš što se trenutno na javi zbiva? Ne. Baš ti je dobro u zemlji snova.

Ionako te eventualno pamti iduća generacija (djeca) a kasnije si prepušten zaboravu, makar imao 15-ero djece i unučadi. Osim ako nisi za života bio Tesla ili tako neka važna figura. Život ide dalje, tko će vodit brigu o pokojnima.


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Većina ljudi, nažalost vjeruje u bajke jer im odgovaraju.

Nevidim zašto bi moju ili ičiju sadašnjost uvjetovalo postojanje ili nepostojanje nečega poslije smrti.
Sadašnjost je jedina točka svijesti, sve ostalo su umni programi...
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Većina ljudi, nažalost vjeruje u bajke jer im odgovaraju.

Nevidim zašto bi moju ili ičiju sadašnjost uvjetovalo postojanje ili nepostojanje nečega poslije smrti.
Sadašnjost je jedina točka svijesti, sve ostalo su umni programi...
A može se vjerovati u "bajke" ali ne biti uvjetovan njima.


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Naravno, ali znaš i sama da nije baš tako u praksi kod većine ljudi.

Može se uzeti kao neka mogućnost, ali opet ne vidim praktičnu primjenu osim bijega od stvarnosti...
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Naravno, ali znaš i sama da nije baš tako u praksi kod većine ljudi.

Može se uzeti kao neka mogućnost, ali opet ne vidim praktičnu primjenu osim bijega od stvarnosti...
Ne mora biti bijeg od stvarnosti ... ljudi su po svojoj prirodi skloni maštanju i bog nam je dao svijest ali i znatiželju pa je logično da istražujemo nepoznato. Mislim da je to ono što nas kao vrstu održava i gura naprijed.

Naravno, sve dok to ne postane opsesija i dok ti se život ne transponira u bilo koje uvjerenje ili fantaziju.


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Ne mora biti bijeg od stvarnosti ... ljudi su po svojoj prirodi skloni maštanju i bog nam je dao svijest ali i znatiželju pa je logično da istražujemo nepoznato. Mislim da je to ono što nas kao vrstu održava i gura naprijed.
Tko je bog ?

Ovo nije ni istraživanje nego vjerovanje ...

A kao vrstu nas održavaju biološki programi koliko god se mi busali u prsa da smo jako napredni ...
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Tko je bog ?

Ovo nije ni istraživanje nego vjerovanje ...

A kao vrstu nas održavaju biološki programi koliko god se mi busali u prsa da smo jako napredni ...
Bog je neka nama još nepoznata sila - prauzrok. Štogod bio. I to nije uvjerenje nego činjenica.

Kao fizičku vrstu nas održavaju biološki programi ali jako dobro znamo da duh, um, bog iscjeljuje van svih dokazanih, logičnih biološko-kemijsko objašnjivih procesa.


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Bog je neka nama još nepoznata sila - prauzrok. Štogod bio. I to nije uvjerenje nego činjenica.

Kao fizičku vrstu nas održavaju biološki programi ali jako dobro znamo da duh, um, bog iscjeljuje van svih dokazanih, logičnih biološko-kemijsko objašnjivih procesa.
Bog je konceptualno uvjerenje...
Ne treba razmišljati vremenski linearno.
U svakom slučaju za sadašnjost je opet nebitno postojanje ili nepostojanje boga.
Promatrajući prirodu možemo vidjeti da teži neutralnosti ...

Što/tko u biti kanalizira , a ima tu dosta i placeba, no to je druga tema ...
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Bog je konceptualno uvjerenje...
Religijski bog jest. Ali ja ne pričam o njemu.

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Ne treba razmišljati vremenski linearno.
Može li to itko uopće? Možeš li ti zamisliti nezamislivo?
Ja priznam da ne mogu - teoretski razumijem koncept nelinearnog vremena ali ne mogu ga pojmiti i ne vjerujem da itko može.

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U svakom slučaju za sadašnjost je opet nebitno postojanje ili nepostojanje boga.
Ovisi ... nije nebitno jer da nije bilo prauzroka, onda ni nas ne bi bilo. Nije nebitno jer ako takav koncept daje ljudima neki oslonac da smirenije, bolje, etičnije, kvalitetnije i zdravije žive - onda je itekako bitno.

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Promatrajući prirodu možemo vidjeti da teži neutralnosti ...
Neutralnost u kojem smislu? Na koji način? Čovjek je svjestan svoje smrtnosti. Da li je priroda svjesna? Da li je stablo u šumi svjesno postojanja motorne pile? Da li je zec u šumi svjestan postojanja puške i ražnja?

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Što/tko u biti kanalizira , a ima tu dosta i placeba, no to je druga tema ...
Mi kanaliziramo, mi smo protočni, a placebo je sve što nije kemija ili nema neko izravno fizičko djelovanje na organizam.


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Religijski bog jest. Ali ja ne pričam o njemu.
Svejedno, čim daješ neki opis to spada u religiju.

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Može li to itko uopće? Možeš li ti zamisliti nezamislivo?
Ja priznam da ne mogu - teoretski razumijem koncept nelinearnog vremena ali ne mogu ga pojmiti i ne vjerujem da itko može.
Mi vrijeme percipiramo linearno, to ne znači da je ono takvo...


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Ovisi ... nije nebitno jer da nije bilo prauzroka, onda ni nas ne bi bilo. Nije nebitno jer ako takav koncept daje ljudima neki oslonac da smirenije, bolje, etičnije, kvalitetnije i zdravije žive - onda je itekako bitno.
Tko smo mi/što u biti ?
Možda smo računalni program/matrix, ima puno teorija o holografskom svemiru.

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Neutralnost u kojem smislu? Na koji način? Čovjek je svjestan svoje smrtnosti. Da li je priroda svjesna? Da li je stablo u šumi svjesno postojanja motorne pile? Da li je zec u šumi svjestan postojanja puške i ražnja?
Priroda teži neutralnosti tako da balansira biološke vrste, imaš puno primjera kada je neke vrste viška ili manjka što se dešava. Čovjek je taj balans narušio, ali nije ni on imun na neutralnost prirode ...


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Mi kanaliziramo, mi smo protočni, a placebo je sve što nije kemija ili nema neko izravno fizičko djelovanje na organizam.
Odakle kanaliziramo ?
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