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Nepročitano 02-04-22, 11:08   #1
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Što se konkretno postiže stjecanjem pretjeranog materijalnog bogatstva i moći. Što to navodi na pohlepu?.To ide do te mjere da se ljudi međusobno ubijaju. Zar nemaju svjest o smrti?? Zar ne znaju da to ništa ne prelazi u drugi život ili u duhovni svijet?? ili se to prenosi ipak?
Razumno je da se ljudi bore za blagostanje, ali di je granica?

DA se vode ratovi zbog nekih interesa moći, da se masovno ubija i sakati. Što se na kraju života postiže sa moći i bogatstvom?




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Što se konkretno postiže stjecanjem pretjeranog materijalnog bogatstva i moći. Što to navodi na pohlepu?.To ide do te mjere da se ljudi međusobno ubijaju. Zar nemaju svjest o smrti?? Zar ne znaju da to ništa ne prelazi u drugi život ili u duhovni svijet?? ili se to prenosi ipak?
Razumno je da se ljudi bore za blagostanje, ali di je granica?

DA se vode ratovi zbog nekih interesa moći, da se masovno ubija i sakati. Što se na kraju života postiže sa moći i bogatstvom?
Gramzivost o kojoj pišeš ima veze sa proširenom identifikacijom; čovjek ne grabi i zgrće moć i bogastvo samo radi sebe već i radi svojih identifikacija koje nastavljaju živjeti poslije njega a to su ideje,prijatelji, obitelj, stranka i država kao možda najšira ego identifikacija.. Naravno neki ljudi su sebičniji i ne misle ništa dobro o tome što će njihovo bogatstvo ostati drugima.

Kod mene na selu nekad su se ljudi svađali oko zemlje i meja pa ima i izreka o smislu svega toga: "Boriš se za zemlju a uskoro ćeš je imati puna usta" misleći na raspadanju tijela u grobu :)
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Što se konkretno postiže stjecanjem pretjeranog materijalnog bogatstva i moći. Što to navodi na pohlepu?.To ide do te mjere da se ljudi međusobno ubijaju. Zar nemaju svjest o smrti?? Zar ne znaju da to ništa ne prelazi u drugi život ili u duhovni svijet?? ili se to prenosi ipak?
Razumno je da se ljudi bore za blagostanje, ali di je granica?

DA se vode ratovi zbog nekih interesa moći, da se masovno ubija i sakati. Što se na kraju života postiže sa moći i bogatstvom?
Normalan, pod tim mislim "božji čovjek", čovjek s božanskom iskrom, nema potrebu grabiti niti ga zanima moć, jer je on svjestan da to nije ni cilj ni svrha života. Oni koji grabe nažalost su prazne ljušture, organski portali, i ne mogu se smatrati ljudskim bićima. Oni imaju neku sasvim drugu agendu za ovaj svijet, agendu koja se upravo odigrava pred našim očima.


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Normalan, pod tim mislim "božji čovjek", čovjek s božanskom iskrom, nema potrebu grabiti niti ga zanima moć, jer je on svjestan da to nije ni cilj ni svrha života. Oni koji grabe nažalost su prazne ljušture, organski portali, i ne mogu se smatrati ljudskim bićima. Oni imaju neku sasvim drugu agendu za ovaj svijet, agendu koja se upravo odigrava pred našim očima.
I što če oni konkretno postić s time? mislim te ljušture. Za koje dobro (njima dobro)?




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I što če oni konkretno postić s time? mislim te ljušture. Za koje dobro (njima dobro)?
Za njihovo dobro. Bića bez duše, bez savjesti i bez empatije nemaju isto viđenje svijeta. Njima su moć i manipulacija sve. Uživaju u svojoj predstavi.


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I što če oni konkretno postić s time? mislim te ljušture. Za koje dobro (njima dobro)?
"Jesam" je temu proširila i na duhovnu gramzivost i porobljavanje. Protivnik Božji igra i na kartu "vuka u jagnjećem krznu" pa tu imamo glumu duhovne etike i duhovne skromnosti,asketizma....isto tako u cilju ne materijalne već duhovne gramzivosti za osvajanje duša. Druga sredstva isti cilj.
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Imali smo mi jednog lika na faksu - ih, što je taj znao mljeti, jezik mu je išo ko drišljavoj kravi rit, to su bile rečenice kilomentarske, frazetine s hrpom stranih riječi - valjda je Klaića naučio napamet, sve kićeno i filozofski obojeno. Kad bi on zinuo, 5 minuta ne bi udahnuo. I nakon toga su svi ostali bez teksta. Jer, naravno, nitko nije shvatio što je zapravo htio reći, ali su mislili da je to zbog toga što su oni bedasti pa su biti zadivljeni jednim takvim likom koji je bio prepun fensi riječi ali sadržaja nije bilo ni za zrno riže.

Jedina sam mu ja rekla da sastavi normalnu rečenicu koju svatko razumije, ali teško je to kad nemaš čistu sliku u glavi pa moraš mljeti puno da prikriješ manjak suvislosti, razumijevanja i fokusa. Mora da mu je u glavi bio teški kaos.

Svi veliki mislioci su se služili jednostavnošću u izričaju. Samo su laž i mutna voda komplicirani, zakukuljeni i zavijeni u 300 nepotrebnih riječi.
Jer, ako nešto ne možeš objasniti tako da svako dijete razumije, onda ni sam ne razumiješ.

A još gori su oni koji su prikriveno agresivni, pa svojim izborom mutnih riječi nastoje prikriti svoju zloću. Tako da te molim "Zaratustra" da me zaobiđeš i poštediš svog otrova i nekulture. Apage Satanas!!!


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Svi veliki mislioci su se služili jednostavnošću u izričaju.
Kad ja dam kratku i jasnu definiciju Boga onda ti kažeš "Dakle nije iz biblije". Nad jasnim definicijama ti ćutiš. A kad je kažem "Jeste iz biblije" ti opet moraš ćutati ili nesuvislo ustvrditi "To je problem". Nije problem ako se zna razdvajati kukolj od žita. Ne može neznalac voditi diskusiju sa neznalcem.

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A još gori su oni koji su prikriveno agresivni, pa svojim izborom mutnih riječi nastoje prikriti svoju zloću.
Opće je poznato da oni koji su nemoćni u diskusiji sa mudrima, mudru analizu proglašavaju "mutnom" i "agresivnom".... ili kako apostol Pavao dobro zapaža "Ludost ovog svijeta je mudrost pred Bogom".

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Zaratustra - KOJI DIO "ne želim s tobom diskutirati" i "zaobiđi me" nisi shvatio???
Ne odgovaram ti jer s takvima kao ti nemam što razgovarati.

Prouči osnove ispravne i valjane argumentacije. S obzirom da su ih pisali znalci, a ti si evidentno neznalac - onda s tobom ne mogu diskutirati.

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Zaratustra - KOJI DIO "ne želim s tobom diskutirati" i "zaobiđi me" nisi shvatio???
Sigurno bih te zaobišao u širokom luku...ako me možeš shvatiti.

Sa kim diskutiram neznam...nije mi bitno...ja samo reagiram na rečenice koje imaju utjecaja na druge ljude...ako me možeš shvatiti.
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