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Pa zašto onda Uoo služiš luciferu?

Isus Krist je Put, Istina i Život. Nitko neće k Ocu doli putem Njega.
Ivan 14:6


luciferu služe oni koji propagiraju suprotno i odvode čovjeka u konačnu propast


Uistinu, Bog je tako ljubio svijet te je dao svoga Sina Jedinorođenca da nijedan koji u njega vjeruje ne propadne, nego da ima život vječni.
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to što propovijedaš nije nikakva uzvišena kršćanska teologija već čisti luciferizam koji se propagira kroz new age na sva zvona..

Upoznaj Riječ Božju, jer u laži zloga ćeš ostati na vlastitu propast.

Meni nije cilj likovati nad nekime, rugati se, nadmetati i govoriti REKAO SAM TI NJANJA NJA.. ja doista želim da se pokaješ, obratiš Isusu Kristu, progledaš i da se spasiš.. no dok god to pokušavaš bez Isusa Krista u svojoj snazi kroz luciferijansku doktrinu propasti ćeš.


A kamo ja odlazim, znate put. Reče mu Toma: Gospodine, ne znamo kamo odlaziš. Kako onda možemo put znati? Odgovori mu Isus: Ja sam Put i Istina i Život: nitko ne dolazi Ocu osim po meni.
Ivan 14:4-6
Neznam kako možeš nekom reć da će propast ? Znam da ne misliš ništa loše malo citiraš malo si u tome . Al ko ima pravo drugom reć da će propast baš kad govorimo u nekom vjerskom smislu, gdje je ljubav kao zakon i gdje Bog otac zna kako stvari stoje ? I koliko znam Isus često spominje Oca i molitva ide Oče naš , koliko znam i Isus govori o neznam točno jer o sudnje danu ili nečem drugom da to samo Otac zna .
Ovaj Ja može se intrepretirati kao Ja koji prebiva u svakome odnosno Bog .
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Neznam kako možeš nekom reć da će propast ? Znam da ne misliš ništa loše malo citiraš malo si u tome . Al ko ima pravo drugom reć da će propast baš kad govorimo u nekom vjerskom smislu, gdje je ljubav kao zakon i gdje Bog otac zna kako stvari stoje ? I koliko znam Isus često spominje Oca i molitva ide Oče naš , koliko znam i Isus govori o neznam točno jer o sudnje danu ili nečem drugom da to samo Otac zna .
Ovaj Ja može se intrepretirati kao Ja koji prebiva u svakome odnosno Bog .

voziš se autoputem.. ispred tebe, iza izlaska iz tunela urušen je most i ti to znaš.. primio si Milost, vidio provaliju.. izvučen si iz nje.. što je ljubav prema bližnjemu?

1. Skočiti na autocestu mašući poput luđaka i uznemiriti ljude koji jure u provaliju.. upozoriti ih čvrsto i energično da će propasti i poginuti ne okrenu li se s puta kojim idu

2. Sramežljivo mahati autima koji hitaju u provaliju smrti bojeći se što će misliti o tebi upozoriš li ih "pre fanatično" da se moraju okrenuti

Ja ću učiniti SVE u svojoj moći da OKRENEM SVAKI AUTO KOJI MOGU JER SAM VIDIO PROVALIJU, VIDIO SAM KRV, SMRT, SMRAD, STRAH.

Mnogi će me pregaziti nebi li došli do svoje provalije.. no ja ću se svaki put ustati, otresti prašinu i postaviti se pred sljedeći auto.


Uistinu, Bog je tako ljubio svijet te je dao svoga Sina Jedinorođenca da nijedan koji u njega vjeruje ne propadne, nego da ima život vječni.
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voziš se autoputem.. ispred tebe, iza izlaska iz tunela urušen je most i ti to znaš.. primio si Milost, vidio provaliju.. izvučen si iz nje.. što je ljubav prema bližnjemu?

1. Skočiti na autocestu mašući poput luđaka i uznemiriti ljude koji jure u provaliju.. upozoriti ih čvrsto i energično da će propasti i poginuti ne okrenu li se s puta kojim idu

2. Sramežljivo mahati autima koji hitaju u provaliju smrti bojeći se što će misliti o tebi upozoriš li ih "pre fanatično" da se moraju okrenuti

Ja ću učiniti SVE u svojoj moći da OKRENEM SVAKI AUTO KOJI MOGU JER SAM VIDIO PROVALIJU, VIDIO SAM KRV, SMRT, SMRAD, STRAH.

Mnogi će me pregaziti nebi li došli do svoje provalije.. no ja ću se svaki put ustati, otresti prašinu i postaviti se pred sljedeći auto.
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šta ovi koji održavaju ceste nisu stavili znak da je provalija ili zatvorili cestu ,neodgovorno i zabušanti?:)
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šta ovi koji održavaju ceste nisu stavili znak da je provalija ili zatvorili cestu ,neodgovorno i zabušanti?:)
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Taj put, ta cesta je i napravljena sa tom finalnom destinacijom za čovjeka na umu, stoga ne očekuj svjetleći znak obavijesti od graditelja.

Samo tu i tamo.. naletjet ćeš na pokojega "fanatičnoga luđaka" koji ti čini ono što bi želio da i ti učiniš njemu, upučujući te na Uzak Put pored široke autoceste..


Sve, dakle, što želite da ljudi vama čine, činite i vi njima. To je, doista, Zakon i Proroci. Uđite na uska vrata! Jer široka su vrata i prostran put koji vodi u propast i mnogo ih je koji njime idu. O kako su uska vrata i tijesan put koji vodi u Život i malo ih je koji ga nalaze!
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Stoga im Isus ponovno reče: Zaista, zaista, kažem vam: ja sam vrata ovcama. Svi koji dođoše prije mene, kradljivci su i razbojnici; ali ih ovce ne poslušaše. Ja sam vrata. Kroza me tko uđe, spasit će se: i ulazit će i izlaziti i pašu nalaziti. Kradljivac dolazi samo da ukrade, zakolje i pogubi. Ja dođoh da život imaju, u izobilju da ga imaju. Ja sam pastir dobri. Pastir dobri život svoj polaže za ovce.
Ivan 10:7-11

Dragi brate, ne sljedi krdo. Sljedi Pastira.


Uistinu, Bog je tako ljubio svijet te je dao svoga Sina Jedinorođenca da nijedan koji u njega vjeruje ne propadne, nego da ima život vječni.
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Mnogi će me pregaziti nebi li došli do svoje provalije.. no ja ću se svaki put ustati, otresti prašinu i postaviti se pred sljedeći auto.
Koliko vidim ti ne postupaš u duhu Isusove mudrosti i pouke vezane za propovjedanje koji je rekao "Otresi prašinu sa cipela ispred njihovog praga i idi dalje" ...

Ako si u niz postova ustvrdio da tvoje pisanje ne cijene forumaši i ne žele raspravljati ili sve tvoje negiraju ... zašto ne napustiš forum /ili takav dominantni koncept uvjeravanja/ kao što ti to Isus savjetuje?
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Ja ću učiniti SVE u svojoj moći da OKRENEM SVAKI AUTO KOJI MOGU JER SAM VIDIO PROVALIJU, VIDIO SAM KRV, SMRT, SMRAD, STRAH.


Vidio si sebe. Jedino što čovjek može vidjeti je ono što se nalazi u njemu samome. To si bio ti. To je bio tvoj strah i smrad. Ne sudi druge prema sebi. Ne poopćavaj i ne prejudiciraj (britanci kažu: don't assume: because when you assume, you make an ass out of u and me) Ne "pomaži" onima kojima pomoć nije potrebna i koji pomoć ne žele. Koja je svrha toga? Od čega ih želiš spasiti? Od njihovih sretnih i zadovoljnih života koje žive bez opterećenja ove vrste? A prvenstveno, ne pomaži drugima prije nego što si samome sebi pomogao. A daleko si još od toga.

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Mnogi će me pregaziti ne bi li došli do svoje provalije.. no ja ću se svaki put ustati, otresti prašinu i postaviti se pred sljedeći auto.
I sad, ajde, što bi se moglo zaključiti iz ovakvog bezumnog nasilja ... ? pa netko će te jednom fakat zveknut šakom u glavu kad mu dosade tvoje propovijedi i ako mu napraviš udubinu u limu od auta, uza svo strpljenje i razumijevanje.

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Koliko vidim ti ne postupaš u duhu Isusove mudrosti i pouke vezane za propovjedanje koji je rekao "Otresi prašinu sa cipela ispred njihovog praga i idi dalje" ...
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Koliko vidim ti ne postupaš u duhu Isusove mudrosti i pouke vezane za propovjedanje koji je rekao "Otresi prašinu sa cipela ispred njihovog praga i idi dalje" ...

Ako si u niz postova ustvrdio da tvoje pisanje ne cijene forumaši i ne žele raspravljati ili sve tvoje negiraju ... zašto ne napustiš forum /ili takav dominantni koncept uvjeravanja/ kao što ti to Isus savjetuje?
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Vidio si sebe. Jedino što čovjek može vidjeti je ono što se nalazi u njemu samome. To si bio ti. To je bio tvoj strah i smrad. Ne sudi druge prema sebi. Ne poopćavaj i ne prejudiciraj (britanci kažu: don't assume: because when you assume, you make an ass out of u and me) Ne "pomaži" onima kojima pomoć nije potrebna i koji pomoć ne žele. Koja je svrha toga? Od čega ih želiš spasiti? Od njihovih sretnih i zadovoljnih života koje žive bez opterećenja ove vrste? A prvenstveno, ne pomaži drugima prije nego što si samome sebi pomogao. A daleko si još od toga.



I sad, ajde, što bi se moglo zaključiti iz ovakvog bezumnog nasilja ... ? pa netko će te jednom fakat zveknut šakom u glavu kad mu dosade tvoje propovijedi i ako mu napraviš udubinu u limu od auta, uza svo strpljenje i razumijevanje.



Ne slušaš oca svoga?
Vi ste na mojim temama, a ne ja na vašima.

To sam vam govorio da se ne sablaznite. Izopćavat će vas iz sinagoga. Štoviše, dolazi čas kad će svaki koji vas ubije misliti da služi Bogu. A to će činiti jer ne upoznaše ni Oca ni mene. Govorio sam vam ovo da se, kada dođe vrijeme, sjetite da sam vam rekao.
Ivan 16:1-4


Uistinu, Bog je tako ljubio svijet te je dao svoga Sina Jedinorođenca da nijedan koji u njega vjeruje ne propadne, nego da ima život vječni.
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Vi ste na mojim temama, a ne ja na vašima.

To sam vam govorio da se ne sablaznite. Izopćavat će vas iz sinagoga. Štoviše, dolazi čas kad će svaki koji vas ubije misliti da služi Bogu. A to će činiti jer ne upoznaše ni Oca ni mene. Govorio sam vam ovo da se, kada dođe vrijeme, sjetite da sam vam rekao.
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NEWSWEEK The Bible: So Misunderstood It's a Sin

"Those who believed in the Trinity butchered Christians who didn’t. Groups who believed Jesus was two entities—God and man—killed those who thought Jesus was merely flesh and blood. Some felt certain God inspired Old Testament Scriptures, others were convinced they were the product of a different, evil God. Some believed the Crucifixion brought salvation to humankind, others insisted it didn’t, and still others believed Jesus wasn’t crucified.
Indeed, for hundreds of years after the death of Jesus, groups adopted radically conflicting writings about the details of his life and the meaning of his ministry, and murdered those who disagreed. For many centuries, Christianity was first a battle of books and then a battle of blood. The reason, in large part, was that there were no universally accepted manuscripts that set out what it meant to be a Christian, so most sects had their own gospels."
"Christianity was in chaos in its early days, with some sects declaring the others heretics. And then, in the early 300s, Emperor Constantine of Rome declared he had become follower of Jesus, ended his empire’s persecution of Christians and set out to reconcile the disputes among the sects. Constantine was a brutal sociopath who murdered his eldest son, decapitated his brother-in-law and killed his wife by boiling her alive, and that was after he proclaimed that he had converted from worshipping the sun god to being a Christian. Yet he also changed the course of Christian history, ultimately influencing which books made it into the New Testament."

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