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Nepročitano 01-02-14, 00:48   #41
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Uoo. U moru molbi bogu, nekad se poklopi da ti se nakon molitve dogodi upravo to što si htio.
Predlažem da testiraš taj rezultat moleći se limenki sardina. Ozbiljan sam.
Test može uspijet jedino ako zaista vjeruješ u tu limenku kao i u sadašnjeg boga.
Težak zadatak jer ćeš se vjerovatno glupo osjećat vjerovat u limenku ali eto...garantiram ti da će ti limenka u jednom trenutku odgovoriti i da ćeš postat limeni.
Ali moraš dovoljno vjerovat.


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cham, test ti je vrlo los. Zamoli komsiju ili bilo koju osobu da ti ispuni zelju i ona ce ti nekad biti ispunjena, a nekad nece.

Sta si ono htio dokazati?

Ah, da! Vjerovatno da komsije ne postoje jer se ponasaju ko i konzerve?!
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Jest da je malo sa zakasnjenjem, ali samo jedna kraca (ili barem ne preopsirna) opaska s moje strane.

Jesam, jesi li ti pregledala snimak kompletno? Obrati paznju na pocetni argument gdje je navedena i recenica: "Current physical laws may not have governed the past". Dakle, aludira se da, ako je Bog stvarao Univerzum prije nekih 6000 godina i ako je to trajalo vrlo brzo, fizicki zakoni nisu mogli odgovarati danasnjim te ni sva naucna radiokarbonska mjerenja niti tvrdnje o promjenama magnetnih polova itd. sa uzimanjem u obzir sadasnjih fizickih zakona ne mogu biti tacni. Sto se dinosaurusa tice i to su objasnili u snimku. Tvrdi se da su iznenadno nestali zbog sveopsteg potopa koji je unistio sve u kratkom roku. A ne znam sta Fenicani i Sumeri, pa cak i krscani imaju s ovim. Podaci o nastanku kao i potopu iz biblije su od Israelicana. Sumerski narod je star nekoliko hiljada godina i prije Biblije su tvrdili dosta slicnih stvari sto i Biblija tvrdi.
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Jesam, ogromna je razlika izmedju te dvije tvrdnje. Ovu prvu su iznijeli prije vise hiljada godina i dan, danas je za mnoge aktuelna. A kad je ta tvoja tvrdnja nastala i kod koga je bila aktuelna? Cak sta vise kontradiktira sama sebe jer bih mogao povjerovati da si ti samo moja kreacija te izvor tvrdnje je isto tako samo iz moje maste (itd. usli bi u zacarani krug).
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Jesam, ogromna je razlika izmedju te dvije tvrdnje. Ovu prvu su iznijeli prije vise hiljada godina i dan, danas je za mnoge aktuelna. A kad je ta tvoja tvrdnja nastala i kod koga je bila aktuelna? Cak sta vise kontradiktira sama sebe jer bih mogao povjerovati da si ti samo moja kreacija te izvor tvrdnje je isto tako samo iz moje maste (itd. usli bi u zacarani krug).
To što je nešto starije, ne znači da je i točnije ili istinitije.

Pri tome je sasvim nebitno što bi se moglo povjerovati.

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Pa ja i ne kazem da starije znaci tacnije. I u pravu si, nebitno je sta bi se moglo povjerovati.

Ili je mozda bitno licno meni da vjerujem da razgovaram s nekim.

Samo hocu da kazem je da ipak nije sve tako jednako prihvatljivo, odnosno moguce.
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da se malo igramo,kad već igramo, svima koji vjeruju u boga prihvatljivo je da je Bogu sve moguće, i sad sam stvarno zaboravio što sam htio reć,šteta ,nema veze
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Rim ima dugu povijest progona, mučenja i ubijanja kršćana, te potpunog iskrivljavanja Isusovog evanđelja.. vrijeme je da naučimo razliku.. ugledamo vuka pod ovčjom kožom i skinemo stigmu koju su nanijeli istinskim kršćanima i Isusovom učenju.

I vidjeh: Žena je pijana od krvi svetih i od krvi svjedoka Isusovih. Kad je vidjeh, čudom se silnim začudih.
Nato će mi anđeo: "Što se čudiš? Ja ću ti kazati tajnu te žene i Zvijeri koja je nosi, Zvijeri sa sedam glava i deset rogova.
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Ovo je odličan filmić - stavila sam lani jedan sličan, samo što ovaj temeljitije obrađuje temu.

Podsjetila sam se da je Krist ujahao u Jeruzalem na 26.4. (danas cvjetnica) - moj rođendan!

Hm, ako Rim/Vatikan nije grimizna bludnica, možda bi mogla biti Angela Merkel.


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Pa poredeci svoju staru slavu na spram danasnje, ne vjerujem da bi se Vatikanu trenutno sad mogla pripisati sva ona krv i bludnost. Osim ako opet ne stanu na noge. Angela Markel je samo jedna crtica u historiji. I Hitler je zauzeo mnogo jacu historijsku poziciju. Cionizam (a mozda i evangelisticki fundamentalizam) nadmasice mozda sve dosadasnje, osim ako ne izrode jos nesto gore i opasnije.
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Pa poredeci svoju staru slavu na spram danasnje, ne vjerujem da bi se Vatikanu trenutno sad mogla pripisati sva ona krv i bludnost. Osim ako opet ne stanu na noge. Angela Markel je samo jedna crtica u historiji. I Hitler je zauzeo mnogo jacu historijsku poziciju. Cionizam (a mozda i evangelisticki fundamentalizam) nadmasice mozda sve dosadasnje, osim ako ne izrode jos nesto gore i opasnije.
Ne razumijem što si ovime htio reći?

Misliš da više nisu toliko krvoločni ili da im se treba oprostiti sve ono prije jer su sada nešto malo blaži?

Što znači, ako opet stanu na noge?? Pa oni i danas drmaju svjetskom političkom scenom nesmanjenom žestinom.

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