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Nepročitano 15-05-14, 13:05   #21
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Lijepo, lijepo, sad smo još i svinje.
ma to sam samo na uvjerljiv način htjela Uoo poručiti da ne forsira ljude u šta će vjerovati jer je vjera osobna stvar svakog pojedinca.

Kad si me već potegla za jezik s tim biserjem i svinjama onda moram i nastaviti

Općenito je nametanje svojih uvjerenja drugome potpuno besmisleno, nebitno je o čemu se radi, možeš biti zaista u pravu i vidjeti da osoba ne čini dobro, možeš potrošiti hrpu riječi i energije ali čovjek ko čovjek, napravit će po svom, jer mora imati vlastito iskustvo


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Nedavno sam razgovarala s čovjekom koji je svoj mir pronašao u Isusu.

Prolazio je užasno teško razdoblje, tragao za egzorcistima, bio u stalnom kontaktu s karizmaticima... koliko je meni priča poznata, rekla bih da on ima psihičkih problema i na kraju sam mu to priznala.
Rekao mi je da će mi drugi put donijeti papire... potpuno je psihički normalan, nema nikakav poremećaj.

Ne znam objasniti njegovo iskustvo, on kaže da je vidio Isusa i osjetio neopisivu ljubav. Kao... kako mi uopće ne možemo pojmiti koliko nas Bog voli i kako mi Boga nikada ne možemo toliko voljeti.

On je zbilja promijenio život, stvarno nastoji biti bolji čovjek, pomaže drugima i radi to iskreno i od srca.

Osobno teško povjerujem u te stvari, još i sada mislim da mu fali dodatno mišljenje drugog psihijatra, ali ne znam kako objasniti promjenu na tom čovjeku.

Glede biserja pred svinje, on o tome jako rijetko priča i zapravo malo ljudi zna što je proživio.
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oni koji su zaista imali nekakva iskustva s Isusom ili majkom Marijom neće o tome pričati na sva zvona jer je to duboko i osobno iskustvo, zato su meni sumnjive one vidjelice iz Međugorja, no mislim da one jako dobro znaju da su u pitanju demonski entiteti


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Ne treba značiti mila, ponekad želimo da cijeli svijet iskusti radost koju smo mi iskusili i ne možemo prestati pričati o tome.

Ponekad nam je dovoljno što smo nešto iskusili.

Različito, individualno od čovjeka do čovjeka, a i neke religije sugeriraju da se svjedočanstvo obznani.
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Sjećam se koliko sam osobno bila ushićena kada sam počela razumijevati pojam osjećaja bezuvjetne i sveobuhvatne ljubavi kao stanja bića, stanja svijesti (btw., mislim da je to isto kao susret s Kristom).

No, nikad nisam bila tiša nego tada jer naprosto nisam znala kako to prenijeti onome tko nije imao to osobno iskustvo i spoznaju. Bilo mi je jasno da je nemoguće i uzaludno i da bi zvučalo presmiješno.

Iako sam par puta i ovdje pokušala objasniti razliku u nekim diskusijama - ali vidjela sam da je odaziv slab, pa nisam forsirala.


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Ne treba značiti mila, ponekad želimo da cijeli svijet iskusti radost koju smo mi iskusili i ne možemo prestati pričati o tome.

Ponekad nam je dovoljno što smo nešto iskusili.

Različito, individualno od čovjeka do čovjeka, a i neke religije sugeriraju da se svjedočanstvo obznani.
ne, to onda nije istinski susret s Bogom nego puko teoretiziranje, neke vlastite projekcije...
Imala sam i jedno i drugo i mogu pojmiti razliku a razlika je neopisiva

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Sjećam se koliko sam osobno bila ushićena kada sam počela razumijevati pojam osjećaja bezuvjetne i sveobuhvatne ljubavi kao stanja bića, stanja svijesti (btw., mislim da je to isto kao susret s Kristom).
Stavila sam na fb tekst o Vrhunskom iskustvu kao "slatkoj tajni"...
mogli bi imati ovdje slicnu temu .


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Pa mozda su mnogi od nas nesto vidjeli ili dozivjeli (u jacoj ili blazoj formi) te se i vrzmamo po religiji trazeci potvrdu svome dozivljaju ili nesto drugo. Neko od nas ce to iznijeti, neko nece ili ce mozda to iznijeti samo u odredjenoj prilici. Evo, dobro je spoznati da su i drugi iz drugih religija imali dozivljaj koji je svojstven pogledu i nazoru te religije. To nesto ipak govori i iz toga se moze nesto zakljuciti u pogledu licnih dozivljaja.
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Ja Isusa poimam kao personifikaciju više svjesnosti i zato se kaže da nitko neće k ocu osim preko njega, jer je preduvjet spoznaje Boga viša svjesnost. I tako to oduvijek vidim.
Više svjesnosti? Šta to znači?


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Više svjesnosti? Šta to znači?

Što god ti ja sad kažem, ti ćeš to obezvrijediti ili iskriviti.

Ako te zanima, sigurna sam da ćeš se sam potruditi saznati. Jedino tako će ti i moći biti jasno. Ovdje teorija nema neku vrijednost. Samo praksa.

A ako te to ne zanima, onda je ionako svejedno.


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