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slazem se sa svime.. ali ovaj dio gdje spominjes vrmenski raspon mislim da moras osvijestiti.. jer bas kako kazes neki mogu pasti i nize.. a neki mogu i instantno prosvijetljenje dozivjeti..

prosvijetljenje nema forme ni oblika.. niti uslova sto to jeste.. necije prosvjetljenje moze biti potpuno razlicito od tvojeg koncepta prosvijetljenja.. tako da i njegovo iskustvo ne mora sadrzavati ono sto je bilo dio tvojeg posto je prosvijetljenje prije samog iskustva
Tako je, ali onaj koji je prosvijetljen zna da to jeste. Tek tada nema koncepata, sve postaje Jedno. Osvijetljen je svaki kutak svijesti, ne postoje ni podsvjesno, ni nesvjesno, ni um, ni intelekt, ni prošlost, ni budućnost, ni sadašnjost, nema vremena - samo carstvo vječne svjetlosti. Jednota.


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presretan sam citajuci ove zadnje postove..

cini mi se kao da smo ulaskom u tu 2012 probili neki veo..

joke mozda imas 15 godina.. ali mudrost koja iz tebe izvire je bezvremena

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Tako je, ali onaj koji je prosvijetljen zna da to jeste. Tek tada nema koncepata, sve postaje Jedno. Osvijetljen je svaki kutak svijesti, ne postoje ni podsvjesno, ni nesvjesno, ni um, ni intelekt, ni prošlost, ni budućnost, ni sadašnjost, nema vremena - samo carstvo vječne svjetlosti. Jednota.
pa to ti je upravo sada...prepoznaj to i prosvjetlit ćeš se....ne tragaj za prosvjetljenjem, spoznaj da već jesi prosvjetljenj ;))


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Tako je, ali onaj koji je prosvijetljen zna da to jeste. Tek tada nema koncepata, sve postaje Jedno. Osvijetljen je svaki kutak svijesti, ne postoje ni podsvjesno, ni nesvjesno, ni um, ni intelekt, ni prošlost, ni budućnost, ni sadašnjost, nema vremena - samo carstvo vječne svjetlosti. Jednota.
onaj koji zna da je prosvijetljen nije onaj koji je prosvijetljen.. jer znanje je manifestni fenomen koji je iz jednote izdvojen nekim principima i zakonima.. cim postoji netko tko zna.. postoji izdvojenost iz iskustva jednote o kojem pricas.. mada nemora biti ako postoji budna svijest svijesna i onoga koji "zna"..

uglavnom slazemo se potpuno.. samo sada to pokusavamo uskladiti sa ogranicenim modusom izrazavanja u ovom konceptualnom obliku.. a to i nije bas najsretnija partija karata.. nacrtati sliku slovima.. eh..


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Jesam! Ali veo samskara mi ne da da to vidim, u tome je problem. Da nije njih ne bi bilo ni karme, ni mnogih života.

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onaj koji zna da je prosvijetljen nije onaj koji je prosvijetljen.. jer znanje je manifestni fenomen koji je iz jednote izdvojen nekim principima i zakonima.. cim postoji netko tko zna.. postoji izdvojenost iz iskustva jednote o kojem pricas.. mada nemora biti ako postoji budna svijest svijesna i onoga koji "zna"..

uglavnom slazemo se potpuno.. samo sada to pokusavamo uskladiti sa ogranicenim modusom izrazavanja u ovom konceptualnom obliku.. a to i nije bas najsretnija partija karata.. nacrtati sliku slovima.. eh..
On zna, kao što sve zna, ne zbog toga što razmišlja, već što je postao JEDNO iz kojeg je sve poteklo. Kamen ne može da razmišlja, Bog ne razmišlja. Zašto bi razmišljao, zar ima nešto da mu je nepoznato?


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Kada nestanu ideje, mentalne slike, intelekt, tada nestaje i sve ono što nas sprječava da se vidimo kakvi jesmo - tada ostaje čist Bitak! Čovjek konačno spoznaje sebe. To i jeste cilj meditacije i svakog duhovnog učenja.

Ali, uh....koliko je potrebno vježbati da bi se došlo do toga... Pprevazići mnoge frustracije, negativna osjećanja, pročišćavati podsvjesno, nesvjesno... Dug je put do toga.
Eh...baš si to lijepo i vrlo jasno rekao.


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Jesam! Ali veo samskara mi ne da da to vidim, u tome je problem. Da nije njih ne bi bilo ni karme, ni mnogih života.

Jeste i to, život je samo jedan, ovaj SADA, ali opet na hiljade samskara u meni traže da ih spoznam i tako eliminišem.
a jedna od njih je i cijeli taj koncept samskara, i misao da ih moras spoznati i eliminisati..

prosvijetljen mozes biti i sa njima tocno takvima kakve jesu.. ne stoje nicemu na putu

i da govorimo isto al neadekvatan je medij za izrazavanje..

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On zna, kao što sve zna, ne zbog toga što razmišlja, već što je postao JEDNO iz kojeg je sve poteklo. Kamen ne može da razmišlja, Bog ne razmišlja. Zašto bi razmišljao, zar ima nešto da mu je nepoznato?
da slazem se.. to sam i mislio rekavsi o onome koji je svijestan i onoga koji zna.. ali i svih onih koji neznaju a jesu


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