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Nepročitano 28-12-11, 15:38   #21
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Nisi, ne sekiraj se. Polako.
Vizualizacije mogu pomoći gdje treba, ali ti u meditaciji nikakve ne trebaju.
Zatvori oči i ne gledaj. Ne interesuje te šta će biti. Samo prati dah i otvori se energiji. Ne očekuj


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Nisi, ne sekiraj se. Polako.
Vizualizacije mogu pomoći gdje treba, ali ti u meditaciji nikakve ne trebaju.
Zatvori oči i ne gledaj. Ne interesuje te šta će biti. Samo prati dah i otvori se energiji. Ne očekuj

Probat ću tako od sada


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miu meditacija nema cilja.. ako ima cilj to nije meditacija..

vizualizacije i slicno nemaju veze s meditacijom.. spoznaje stizu i bez toga.. spoznaje ne otkrivamo, vec se prisjecamo onoga sto vec znamo.. kada buka uma utisa..

egu mogu zvucat privlacno sarene boje i oblici.. no i oni su ono sto meditacijom treba prevazici, a ne ono sto nam meditacijom treba stici..

mislim da sam pisao na ovoj, a mozda i drugim temama opseznije o meditaciji.. pa procitaj ako zelis da se ne ponavljam bezveze.. :)


Uistinu, Bog je tako ljubio svijet te je dao svoga Sina Jedinorođenca da nijedan koji u njega vjeruje ne propadne, nego da ima život vječni.
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Uoo...da li se redovitom meditacijom to stanje, meditativno stanje, izostrava ? Dakle taj mir koji se postigne...gledao sam dokumentarac koji objasnjava da se u tom stanju cakre normaliziraju i da pojacano primas kozmicku energiju koja lijeci um duh i tijelo...koje je tvoje misljenje o tome? Naravno da spominje i povezivanje sa pravim sobom sa cistom svijesti...
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Nek se uvede u zapisnik da bi stisnio hvala na ona moja 2 posta jer sam tako lijepo to srocio da volim procitati svaki dan haha :))
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Uoo...da li se redovitom meditacijom to stanje, meditativno stanje, izostrava ? Dakle taj mir koji se postigne...gledao sam dokumentarac koji objasnjava da se u tom stanju cakre normaliziraju i da pojacano primas kozmicku energiju koja lijeci um duh i tijelo...koje je tvoje misljenje o tome? Naravno da spominje i povezivanje sa pravim sobom sa cistom svijesti...
nebih rekao da se sama meditacija izostrava koliko nam paznju prestanu odvlaciti i fragmentirati iluzije i trabunjanja uma.. meditacija nema oblika ni konkretnog stanja pa se nema sto izostriti.. ali iz te perspektive bucnog uma koji se stisava nam se moze ciniti da se nesto izostrava.. produbljuje.. ili pojasnjava.. tisina.. svijest.. nase prirodno stanje bica izranja na povrsinu i udise zrak.. osjecaj oslobodjenja.. blazenstva i srece..

eventualno stignes u tocku kada mozes razluciti istinu od iluzije u hodu.. netrebas meditaciju da bi "meditirao".. bas kao sto nam tijekom standardne meditacije naviru misli, osjecaji.. raspolozenja i sl.. tako nam i za zivota stizu slicni manifestni fenomeni u za nasa osjetila nesto opipljivijem obliku..

svi oni kada smo u nesvijesnom stanju odvlace nam paznju od istine.. od sustine, unificirane svijesti.. onoga sto jesmo.. i nasa djela i djela koja nam u zivot ulaze treba prihvacati onako kako se energija zeli kretati.. bez unaprijed odredjenog seta pravila.. reagiranje na reakcije je ono sto fragmentira i lovi svijest u "labirint ogledala"..

nije greska krenuti ni lijevo ni desno.. greska je ostaviti dio sebe na tom raskrscu..i vjecito se osvrtati putem.. mada nista, pa ni to ne mora biti greska ako je uradjeno iz stanja unificirane svijesti.. a kada je to tako znati ces..

meditacija nije fitness koji traje 15min dnevno..
zivot je meditacija..

ono sto nas u meditaciji veseli i oslobadja je to sto ne ulazimo u identifikacijsku reakciju sa nadolazecim fenomenima.. pustamo misli da dodju i prodju.. ne loveci se za njih.. promotrimo ih kako prolaze poput oblaka horizontom.. ali nema zabune tko smo mi, a tko su oblaci..
istu stvar moze se primjeniti na sve manifestne fenomene koje iskustveno dozivimo.. neljepljivost.. neidentifikacija.. biti svijetlonosa znaci unijeti tu jasnu budnu unificiranu dimenziju svijesti u nasu materijalnu poljanu "silaznih fenomena".. pred tim svijetlom oslobadjaju se duse iz tisucljetnih patnji i lutanja labiritnom identifikacija..


dobar je taj dokumentarac.. aprenda meditar jel?


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kad sam meditirao sinoc(posto jos nisam navikao na meditaciju,samo sjednem na krevet i stavim ruke kako treba i pokusavam da se smirim zatvorenih ociju).
prvo sam imao osecaj kao da me neka energija gura i ometa me ali sam nastavio kao da je nema i onda iako su mi bile zatvorene oci imao sam osecaj kao da se prevrcem i vrtim u krug i da se sve prevrce oko mene prepao sam se otvorio oci.
dali to nesto znaci ili sam poludio?
Fokusiraj se na zrak koji ti ulazi i izlazi iz nosnica. Osjeti svaki detalj u nosu. Taj udisaj i izdisaj vidi kao jedinu stvar koja postoji u tom trenutku. Ničeg nema osim zraka koji ulazi u tvoje nosnice i izlazi iz njih van.
Kad god ti pažnja počne slijediti nešto drugo, vrati ju na zrak koji ulazi u nosnice i izlazi van.
Potreban je trening. Minuta po minuta...pa sve dok trajanje koncentracije na "nos" potraje pola sata ili duže.

Velike promijene ćeš u svom životu primijetiti već sa 15min. neometanog fokusiranja na zrak i nosnice.
Svakodnevno radi i bez brige budi, rezultati te čekaju.


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Nikad nisam meditirala:)


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miu meditacija nema cilja.. ako ima cilj to nije meditacija..

vizualizacije i slicno nemaju veze s meditacijom.. spoznaje stizu i bez toga.. spoznaje ne otkrivamo, vec se prisjecamo onoga sto vec znamo.. kada buka uma utisa..

egu mogu zvucat privlacno sarene boje i oblici.. no i oni su ono sto meditacijom treba prevazici, a ne ono sto nam meditacijom treba stici..

mislim da sam pisao na ovoj, a mozda i drugim temama opseznije o meditaciji.. pa procitaj ako zelis da se ne ponavljam bezveze.. :)
Meditacija nema cilja. Ima ga čovjek koji meditira. Potreba ga vodi ka cilju putem meditacije.
Kada čovjek prvi put osjeti preplavljujući užitak usred meditacije tada ide za tim stanjem jer iskustveno poznaje da je moguće biti tako sretan (ne govorim o "uobičajenoj" sreći) .
Dobiva se fokus, orijentacija, težnja i cilj.


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Ali to ne znači da ne vjerujem u dobre strane meditacije..:)
previše sam uzemljena da bih se prepustila bilo čemu....


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