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Nepročitano 31-10-12, 16:24   #11
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super, pa daj piši o svojim iskustvima, nemoj se stidjeti
nema to veze sa stidljivošću, niti imam išta za kriti (sve je zapravo rečeno u c/p maila ), već je proces individualan i nema potrebe uspoređivati ono kaj sam ja prošao s putem nekog drugog. a nema ni potrebe ikome sugerirati kako će procesiranje izgledati.

detalje na stranu, vježbe izbacuju na površinu potisnute emocionalne traume, pomažu ti da ih osvijestiš i integriraš, u mjeri u kojoj si sposobna integrirati ih.

nije sve ugodno, ali nije ni neizdrživo. dontvori, svemir te neće lemnuti jače no što si u stanju udarac primiti

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heh, da, ima nešto za podijeliti.

dio vježbi se radi u kadi punoj tople vode, jer voda kao element korespondira s emocijama.

kad sam krenuo s vodenim seansama, tojest kad sam krenuo dizati zakopane i neintegrirane osjećaje počeli su i pičvajzi s vodom.

prvo je susjedu iznad pukla cijev, meni zaflekala strop u kupaonici.

pa je pukla moja cijev i poplavila kupaonicu susjedu ispod.

i kao grand finale, rasprsnula se glavna cijev za cijelu zgradu, u dvorištu smo imali gejzir

ko što rekoh, osmijesi zagarantirani.
ne računam tu kiselo lice susjeda odozdo.


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heh, da, ima nešto za podijeliti.

dio vježbi se radi u kadi punoj tople vode, jer voda kao element korespondira s emocijama.

kad sam krenuo s vodenim seansama, tojest kad sam krenuo dizati zakopane i neintegrirane osjećaje počeli su i pičvajzi s vodom.

prvo je susjedu iznad pukla cijev, meni zaflekala strop u kupaonici.

pa je pukla moja cijev i poplavila kupaonicu susjedu ispod.

i kao grand finale, rasprsnula se glavna cijev za cijelu zgradu, u dvorištu smo imali gejzir

ko što rekoh, osmijesi zagarantirani.
ne računam tu kiselo lice susjeda odozdo.
znači ti si mr. Water
ja sam dosta toga riješila astrološkom analizom, tak da se nadam da neće biti vodenih bujica


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nema to veze sa stidljivošću, niti imam išta za kriti (sve je zapravo rečeno u c/p maila ), već je proces individualan i nema potrebe uspoređivati ono kaj sam ja prošao s putem nekog drugog. a nema ni potrebe ikome sugerirati kako će procesiranje izgledati.

detalje na stranu, vježbe izbacuju na površinu potisnute emocionalne traume, pomažu ti da ih osvijestiš i integriraš, u mjeri u kojoj si sposobna integrirati ih.

nije sve ugodno, ali nije ni neizdrživo. dontvori, svemir te neće lemnuti jače no što si u stanju udarac primiti

a ima i čuda. osmijesi zagarantirani.
nadam se da ćeš nam biti supervizor

nego, ima li puno revizije odnosno razlike između prvog i drugog izdanja?


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nadam se da ćeš nam biti supervizor
sorry but neću

"Stoga sam, umjesto da Proces prisutnosti preobrazim u metodu koju bi prenosili obučeni pomagači, odlučio izravno ga predati svima vama putem ove knjige. Tako ćete ga uvijek imati uza se u njegovom najčistijem obliku. Proces prisutnosti je, stoga, promišljeno napisana i predstavljena knjiga koja vam omogućuje da vi sami postanete pomagač na vlastitom putovanju prema svjesnosti sadašnjeg trenutka."

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nego, ima li puno revizije odnosno razlike između prvog i drugog izdanja?
ima.
prvo je mekše, uvjetno rečeno "ugodnije" za provedbu.
no možda je to samo moje iskustvo, koje se ne može generalno primijeniti.


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sorry but neću

"Stoga sam, umjesto da Proces prisutnosti preobrazim u metodu koju bi prenosili obučeni pomagači, odlučio izravno ga predati svima vama putem ove knjige. Tako ćete ga uvijek imati uza se u njegovom najčistijem obliku. Proces prisutnosti je, stoga, promišljeno napisana i predstavljena knjiga koja vam omogućuje da vi sami postanete pomagač na vlastitom putovanju prema svjesnosti sadašnjeg trenutka."

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ima.
prvo je mekše, uvjetno rečeno "ugodnije" za provedbu.
no možda je to samo moje iskustvo, koje se ne može generalno primijeniti.
divno si naučio nježno reći ne

ma nisam mislila na ništa naporno kad sam spomenula superviziju,
čisto možda neke tehnikalije, kao ovo pitanje o prvom i drugom izdanju

znači može se početi s prvim izdanjem za prvi put,
pa s drugim eventualno drugi put?


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ma nisam mislila na ništa naporno kad sam spomenula superviziju,
čisto možda neke tehnikalije, kao ovo pitanje o prvom i drugom izdanju

znači može se početi s prvim izdanjem za prvi put,
pa s drugim eventualno drugi put?
rekao bih da može, ali da sad krećem ispočetka zanemario bih prvo izdanje.

tehnikalije, recimo u drugom izdanju sugerira da se tokom svih deset vježbi koristi samo jedna aktivacijska izjava:

i am here now in this.

meni je to bilo neskladno za izgovoriti pa sam ga pitao:

when i translate "i am here now in this" to croatian, it feels much more natural, in the spirit of my language, even song-like if i change order of the words to "i am now here in this". the sentence flows easier. to do or not to do?

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Yes, use it in your own language, especially if it feels right.

ak mi još nešto tehnikalijski padne na pamet, vikat ću. a ti slobodno pitaj.


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