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Nepročitano 29-05-15, 10:11   #21
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Dobro si to sve sažela. Samo bih pokušala ovo objasniti: nisi ti uzrokovala njegovo ponašanje u smislu da se zrcalilo tvoje vlastito ponašanje ili stav prema bratu. Nije to u tom smislu, nego si očigledno nešto u takvom odnosu trebala naučiti i zato ti se on u životu ukazao, "privukla" si to u svoj život - tko zna kada i zašto. Na taj način se misli pod "privukla".

Činjenica da to nisi odmah u startu onemogućila ili prerezala je dokaz tome da si to iz nekog razloga trebala proživjeti.

A tako isto i Qiqe.

Imala sam i ja takvih pijavica u svom životu, no na mene se ne usude ići jer ja to odmah u začetku razbucam - bez milosti. Mislim da ih svi imamo, samo je do nas kako ćemo se s time nositi.
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hvala ti za savjet i iskustvo iz prve ruke. Znam da se ljudi tesko mjenjaju, barem ovi 'tezi'.

Ja isto STVARNO ne znam sta sam joj ja to mogla odaslat, osim ljubavi i zelje da nam odnos bude kao i kod svih sestara koje se vole i postuju.

Sad znam da takav nece nikad biti, i necu se vise borit sa tim.

Smijesno je kako ona cesto kao jedan od glavnih razloga sto je takva prema meni navodi to sto sam joj prije 10 god. potrosila neki parfem. Bio je skup doduse. :D
Ovo ne znam dal bi ti i ja oprostila...

Iskreno - češće sam vidjela primjere složne braće, nego sestara...

Nadam se da se nitko neće uvrijediti, ali metode koje žene primjenjuju jedna protiv druge (o kakvom god odnosu bila riječ) teško se nađu među muškarcima...

Uvijek sam volila neku ravnotežu i da (bar) koliko žena se trenutno nalazi na okupu, bude i muškaraca. Gdje je previše žena na istom mjestu, duže vremena, nastanu svakakvi naboji...


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Iskreno - češće sam vidjela primjere složne braće, nego sestara...
Joj, ne! Meni je moja seka najvažnijija i najbližija osoba na cijelom svijetu!

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Nadam se da se nitko neće uvrijediti, ali metode koje žene primjenjuju jedna protiv druge (o kakvom god odnosu bila riječ) teško se nađu među muškarcima...

Uvijek sam volila neku ravnotežu i da (bar) koliko žena se trenutno nalazi na okupu, bude i muškaraca. Gdje je previše žena na istom mjestu, duže vremena, nastanu svakakvi naboji...
U zadnje vrijeme vidim jako snažan "girl-power" trend. I meni se prije činilo isto to što ti kažeš, ali sada više ne. Ili sam se ja promijenila ili se svijet mijenja.

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Uvijek sam volila neku ravnotežu i da (bar) koliko žena se trenutno nalazi na okupu, bude i muškaraca. Gdje je previše žena na istom mjestu, duže vremena, nastanu svakakvi naboji... [/b]
Da, posebno sad u Irskoj nakon referenduma, recimo.
Qiqe, jesi li pitala sestru što bi to trebala ti učiniti da te ona prestane tako tretirati?
Naravno, ne kažem kako bi ti to morala učiniti.


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Joj, ne! Meni je moja seka najvažnijija i najbližija osoba na cijelom svijetu!


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U zadnje vrijeme vidim jako snažan "girl-power" trend. I meni se prije činilo isto to što ti kažeš, ali sada više ne.
Moram priznat (s veseljem i trunkom skepse koju ignoriram ) da se i meni čini da je otkucao taj sat...


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Qiqe, jesi li pitala sestru što bi to trebala ti učiniti da te ona prestane tako tretirati?
Naravno, ne kažem kako bi ti to morala učiniti.
ma jesam egzorciste miljon puta, ali ona ni ne zna odgovor.
Ona vrijedja da bi njoj bilo lakse.
Mene ponizava kako bi sebe barem malo ispunila, jer je ljubomorna na sve sto uradim, sve sto imam, zivot koji vodim- iako uvijek kaki o svemu tome, ali znam da bi i ona rado tako zivjela.

Njena negativa je najvise koci da ostvari ista u zivotu.


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ma jesam egzorciste miljon puta, ali ona ni ne zna odgovor.
Ona vrijedja da bi njoj bilo lakse.
Mene ponizava kako bi sebe barem malo ispunila, jer je ljubomorna na sve sto uradim, sve sto imam, zivot koji vodim- iako uvijek kaki o svemu tome, ali znam da bi i ona rado tako zivjela.

Njena negativa je najvise koci da ostvari ista u zivotu.
Jesi li ju ikada pitala što to ima u njenom životu tako bolno da misli, želi, štogod već, da ako tebi nanese bol/ove da će njoj biti lakše ili zašto joj srce nije na mjestu ako ti ne nanese barem kakvu bol?
Mislim, nezahvalno je da ti išta sugeriram.
Meni se nekako nameće kao pokušaj rješenja između vas dvije.


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Usput - nitko živ me neće razuvjeriti (pričom o ogledalima i zrcaljenju) da sam "radila" išta nego ga voljela (i volim još uvijek). Ili mu odašiljala loše i negativno, pa to kao posljedicu i dobila natrag.
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Jesi li ju ikada pitala što to ima u njenom životu tako bolno da misli, želi, štogod već, da ako tebi nanese bol/ove da će njoj biti lakše ili zašto joj srce nije na mjestu ako ti ne nanese barem kakvu bol?
Mislim, nezahvalno je da ti išta sugeriram.
Meni se nekako nameće kao pokušaj rješenja između vas dvije.
Znam da smo svi na ovoj temi dobronamjerni i želimo pomoći, ali zar zaista mislite da (još jedna) dobronamjerna osoba poput Qiqe sve do sada se nije "sjetila" pristupa koji savjetujete? Sa vlastitom sestrom. Do koje joj je jako stalo?

I - nitko od vas (Egzo, Smješko) nema odnos kojime nije zadovoljan? A ne polaže i nade i energiju da bi moglo biti drugačije? (čisto hipotetski, ne da nešto insinuiram). A okretanje na peti je često lakše nego suočavanje, koliko god se činilo teškim. Vi sve uspijete riješiti ovim savjetima koje ste naveli? PItam sa namjerom da dobijem iskreni odgovor, ništa drugo...

Usput - nismo li na temi naslova "Teške osobe"? Za teško postoje laka rješenja? Nismo li na forumu na kojemu za sve i svašta tvrdimo da se treba i pomučiti i da je proces u pitanju i da sve što "valja" iziskuje puno truda i rada?


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