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Nepročitano 09-05-09, 18:20   #11
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a ništa, vidim da si ti još stvarno dijete...

priznajem, pogodile su me optužbe da provociram i da sam mesojed, jednostavno jer su netočne (velim odrastao sam uz mesara i nagledao se patnje životinja više nego mnogi od vas), no, tvoja bockanja su zbilja ko u djeteta (imam klinca, pa te mogu razumjeti), pa shvaćam da se ne bih trebao uzbuđivati...

ako te moji stavovi (koji su plod iskustva) smetaju, jednostavno ih ne čitaj, zaobiđi...

ukoliko ne bude razumijevanje u tebi već samo otpor, ipak nisu beskorisni...

evo, možeš još nešto dodat da tvoja bude zadnja...

rado ću odgovoriti na još poneko pitanje o homeopatiji ako ga tko ima, ali u ovome ne želim više učestvovati...ovakvim prepucavanjima si prljamo krv više nego jedenjem mesa...

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Nepročitano 10-05-09, 23:22   #12
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Nepročitano 11-05-09, 07:28   #13
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uh, naslov teme mi se čini peoptužujući, preoštar...

činjenica je da nam krave ne daju svojevoljno svoje mlijeko nego ga mi jednostavno uzimamo, radi se dakle o eksploataciji koja je tako karakteristična za nas ljude, ego-bića...

ukoliko bi zbog uzimanja (da ne velim grubo-otimanja kao u prethodnom postu) mlijeka telad redovito ugibala zbog gladi, tada bi to stvarno bilo nehumano, ali s obzirom da se to ne događa, ne trebamo biti tako strogi prema sebi...

napisao sam da i sam ponekada pojedem jaje, a nisam pitao kokicu jel' to ok da joj pojedem budućeg potomka (iako znamo da mnoga jaja nisu oplođena)...

i to je neki vid nasilja...no, ja sebe ne smatram duhovnjakom, pa si gledam kroz prste

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Sve dolazi iz glave i manifestuje se našim mislima.
Zar su naši stari bili ludi što su jeli sir, mleko i mlečne preradjevine i živeli po sto godina?
Ja sam odrastao na kozijem mleku i nikada nisam imao bronhitis u mladosti.
Sve što više postavljamo pitanje da li je nešto loše sve više se ta stvar pljuje i oko nje stvara negativan stav, svako će naći nešto loše u nečemu.
Zar vi živite u savršenom svetu pa vam nešto smeta.
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Sve dolazi iz glave i manifestuje se našim mislima.
Zar su naši stari bili ludi što su jeli sir, mleko i mlečne preradjevine i živeli po sto godina?
Ja sam odrastao na kozijem mleku i nikada nisam imao bronhitis u mladosti.
Sve što više postavljamo pitanje da li je nešto loše sve više se ta stvar pljuje i oko nje stvara negativan stav, svako će naći nešto loše u nečemu.
Zar vi živite u savršenom svetu pa vam nešto smeta.
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uh, naslov teme mi se čini peoptužujući, preoštar...

činjenica je da nam krave ne daju svojevoljno svoje mlijeko nego ga mi jednostavno uzimamo, radi se dakle o eksploataciji koja je tako karakteristična za nas ljude, ego-bića...

ukoliko bi zbog uzimanja (da ne velim grubo-otimanja kao u prethodnom postu) mlijeka telad redovito ugibala zbog gladi, tada bi to stvarno bilo nehumano, ali s obzirom da se to ne događa, ne trebamo biti tako strogi prema sebi...

napisao sam da i sam ponekada pojedem jaje, a nisam pitao kokicu jel' to ok da joj pojedem budućeg potomka (iako znamo da mnoga jaja nisu oplođena)...

i to je neki vid nasilja...no, ja sebe ne smatram duhovnjakom, pa si gledam kroz prste


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dr. Norman W. Walker (da ponovim 100-ti put čovjek koji je cijeli život proučavao prehranu, čovjekov sustav i između ostalog i poznavao osim fizičkog i duhovni aspekt čovjeka što se iz literature da naslutiti) je tvrdio da je kozje mlijeko najbolja zamjena majčinog, pa se ne čudim što si zdrav...

ostaje samo pitanje da li je čovjeku mlijeko stvarno potrebno kada poraste i prestane piti majčino...nijedna životinjska vrsta ne konzumira mlijeko svoje majke do smrti, već samo jedan period kada je to potrebno organizmu, a onda odrasta i prelazi na čvrstu hranu...možda neki jednostavno ne žele odrasti...no, ja tu niš ne osuđujem, svak ima svoj izbor...

ostaje samo pitanje da li nakon pasteriziranja životinjskog mlijeka ostaje u njemu još išta korisno za ljudski organizam ili ono isključivo povećava sluz u njemu?!

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ukoliko neko još nije pročitao ništa od Walkera, a zanima ga nešto o vegetarijanskoj prehrani baziranoj uglavnom na svježe cijeđenim sokovima, ili o duhovnim funkcijama endokrinih žljezda ili o štetnosti neke hrane koju smatramo zdravom (sve to potkrijepljeno je njegovim laboratorijskim istraživanjima i kliničkim slučajevima) ili o korisnosti čišćenja crijeva, neka mi na PM pošalje svoj e-mail pa mu šaljem knjigu u pdf-u "I vi možete poslati puno mlađi", pa ako ga ta knjiga zaintrigira onda šaljem još neke od njega...

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Red Pill, otvorila sam novu temu o Dr.Walkeru ovdje

Molim te da napišeš nešto više o njemu. Možeš staviti i link za download njegove knjige.

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ijako nas tome uče preko reklama...mlijeko za vaše zdravlje..bla bla..

halo!koje zdravlje...možda i da ak svako jutro ustaneš u zoru i izmuzeš svoju kravu Milku ili Bjelku koja papa svježu planinsku travu u čistoj prirodi..i popiš sirovo..

al ono u tetrapaku nije ni m od mlijeka to je otrov..

a te jadne krave toliko izmučene,pod stresom,hormonima,antibioticima a sve to ulazi u mlijeko...okružene svojim izmetom,u smradu ih muze stroj..užas i kako onda to divno biće može proizvest nešto za moje zdravlje...

od tog mlijeka mi se napuhne želudac,prdim,dobim prištiće od tih hormona kojim ih šopaju i imam zadah...i još kad se sjetim što ta kravica proživljava...zaboli me srce...

meni je mlijeko bilo potrebno dok sam bila bebica...nijedno stvorenje ne pije mlijeko u odrasloj dobi osim ljudi...

MI SMO SI UMISLILI DA JE TO DOBRO ZA NAŠE ZDRAVLJE...PLACEBO EFEKT...možemo živjet bez toga i zdravije je...

al tako se lako naviknuti na jela sa vrhnjem za kuhanje,voćne jogurte,sireve...
kad smo kod navikavanja jeste znali da sir ima tvar poput kofeina,teina,čokolade kojia izaziva ovisnost...hm čuli ste za siroljubce,festivale sira...šta tu dodati?
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