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Nepročitano 26-12-10, 11:32   #31
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pa nije humano, isto kao sto nije humano ovo povrce (biljke hranit) gnjojit sa otrovima, krizat ih (gmo), pa ovo smece koje radimo konzumacijom zakopavati u zemlju, uglavnom treba uzet sve u obzir. Pitanje je jel ima izlaza iz ove situacije, jer nemozemo se ogranicit samo na jedno, jedla? I jos mi nije jasno zasto je ljudima odbojna pomisao da piju ljudsko mlijeko ali nije kravlje
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mislim da je glupo da se zakačimo na to je li pijenje mlijeka humano... mislim, to je licemjerno od nas. kad nanosimo dezodorans ubijamo milijun bakterija u djelicu sekunde i to nas ne brine.. ali sad kao brinemo oko jednog teleta... ili kad šečemo cestom pogazimo stotine mrava godišnje i nije nas briga... ali sada tu tvrdimo da nas brine što jedno tele nema mlijeka... što i nije istina jer kada se tele doji onda se obično krava ne muze kako bi imala mlijeko za svoje tele.


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hmm, postoje stvari na koje možemo utjecati, a postoje stvari na koje ne možemo...

pokušaj slučajno zgaziti kravu koja ti se nađe na putu dok šetaš...

uspoređivati bakteriju i kravu

nije poanta samo u nehumanosti prema teletu (koliko znam, nijedno ne ugine od gladi) koje svojim cjelokupnim organizmom podsjeća više na čovjeka nego bakteriju (iako smo mi ljudi karakterno, bliži onim organizmima koje nazivamo parazitima, nažalost), već prema kravi...

ne znam da li si žensko, ali pokušaj si zamisliti cijevi koje saugaju tvoje mlijeko danonoćno, na sisama, pardon, bradavicama...govori se o sustavnom mučenju, jer davati mlijeko non-stop na hektolitre nije prirodno...

mislim da dojilje jako dobro znaju o čemu pričam...

govorimo o biću koje može izražavati emocije, a mi ga tretiramo kao objekt...

uostalom opaska StarNight je na mjestu, zašto ne bismo od sada žene prikopčali na strojeve za mužnju...

pa ljudsko je mlijeko je zdravije za nas nego kravlje...

na kraju krajeva, sve je to isto, oženiš li mrava, bakteriju, kravu ili ženu?

ako je tebi isto, meni nije isto koga oženim, koga zgazim, što ili koga pojedem i na koji način...

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... što i nije istina jer kada se tele doji onda se obično krava ne muze kako bi imala mlijeko za svoje tele.
tele se odvaja od krave, dohranjuje na bočicu sa mljekom smanjenog sadržaja željeza, tako da meso teladi ima finu rozu boju

krave se prikapča na stroj

nisam vege, nemam ništa protiv jedenja životinja i njihovih mljeka,
ALI sam debelo protiv ovakvog nehumanog, zločinačkog, ponašanja prema životinjama

organski uzgojeno meso i mljeko, krave koje pasu travu, bez GMO soje ?
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hmm, postoje stvari na koje možemo utjecati, a postoje stvari na koje ne možemo...

pokušaj slučajno zgaziti kravu koja ti se nađe na putu dok šetaš...

uspoređivati bakteriju i kravu

nije poanta samo u nehumanosti prema teletu (koliko znam, nijedno ne ugine od gladi) koje svojim cjelokupnim organizmom podsjeća više na čovjeka nego bakteriju (iako smo mi ljudi karakterno, bliži onim organizmima koje nazivamo parazitima, nažalost), već prema kravi...

ne znam da li si žensko, ali pokušaj si zamisliti cijevi koje saugaju tvoje mlijeko danonoćno, na sisama, pardon, bradavicama...govori se o sustavnom mučenju, jer davati mlijeko non-stop na hektolitre nije prirodno...

mislim da dojilje jako dobro znaju o čemu pričam...

govorimo o biću koje može izražavati emocije, a mi ga tretiramo kao objekt...

uostalom opaska StarNight je na mjestu, zašto ne bismo od sada žene prikopčali na strojeve za mužnju...

pa ljudsko je mlijeko je zdravije za nas nego kravlje...

na kraju krajeva, sve je to isto, oženiš li mrava, bakteriju, kravu ili ženu?

ako je tebi isto, meni nije isto koga oženim, koga zgazim, što ili koga pojedem i na koji način...
meni je to licemjerno, reći da je krava "vrijednije" biće jer više podsjeća na čovjeka od bakterije. To znaći da mi ovaj svijet mjerimo po sebi. Ljudi su nam najvrijedniji jer su naša skupina, onda idu ostali sisavci, pa tek onda ostala živa bića. Onaj koji zaista voli sva živa bića ne pravi razliku.


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meni je to licemjerno, reći da je krava "vrijednije" biće jer više podsjeća na čovjeka od bakterije. To znaći da mi ovaj svijet mjerimo po sebi. Ljudi su nam najvrijedniji jer su naša skupina, onda idu ostali sisavci, pa tek onda ostala živa bića. Onaj koji zaista voli sva živa bića ne pravi razliku.
a, eto, onda si bolji čovjek od mene...možeš se tješiti

čovjeka nazivaš licemjerom, a "paziš" na mrave i bakterije

ti ne praviš razliku u gornjem komentaru?

još govoriš o licemjerju?

ma prava si dušica



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pa, ak tak kreneš, možeš si zbilja reći zdravo

vidim da osim o bakterijama, brineš i o virusima

http://www.alternativa-forum.com/lij...alne-medicine/

ne bi škodilo da se bolje informiraš, ako si već na forumu ALTERNATIVA ;)

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a, eto, onda si bolji čovjek od mene...možeš se tješiti

čovjeka nazivaš licemjerom, a "paziš" na mrave i bakterije

ti ne praviš razliku u gornjem komentaru?

još govoriš o licemjerju?

ma prava si dušica



p.s. reklamiraš dolje kreni zdravo, a tamo preporučate Tamiflu i cijepljenje protiv gripe

pa, ak tak kreneš, možeš si zbilja reći zdravo

vidim da osim o bakterijama, brineš i o virusima

http://www.alternativa-forum.com/lij...alne-medicine/

ne bi škodilo da se bolje informiraš, ako si već na forumu ALTERNATIVA ;)
A ovo za tamiflu, mi preporučamo ono što djeluje, nije alternativa baš uvijek najbolje riješenje. Mada smo kad god je to moguće, na strani alternative i stavit ćemo prirodni lijek ispred neke kemije... ali eto, treba ljude informirati i o prirodnim i o "konfekcijskim" mogućnostima kao što je tamiflu. Tako da, nemoj se ljutiti :)


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A ovo za tamiflu, mi preporučamo ono što djeluje, nije alternativa baš uvijek najbolje riješenje. Mada smo kad god je to moguće, na strani alternative i stavit ćemo prirodni lijek ispred neke kemije... ali eto, treba ljude informirati i o prirodnim i o "konfekcijskim" mogućnostima kao što je tamiflu. Tako da, nemoj se ljutiti :)
ma nitko se ne ljuti

samo tamiflu sigurno nije najbolje, niti dobro rješenje protiv gripe...raspitajte se malo bolje

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A ovo za tamiflu, mi preporučamo ono što djeluje, nije alternativa baš uvijek najbolje riješenje. Mada smo kad god je to moguće, na strani alternative i stavit ćemo prirodni lijek ispred neke kemije... ali eto, treba ljude informirati i o prirodnim i o "konfekcijskim" mogućnostima kao što je tamiflu. Tako da, nemoj se ljutiti :)
Ovo je forum samo za Alternativu Tamiflu-a, i cilj foruma je da ljudi ne budu u situaciji ikada uzeti spomenuto....

daljnje rasprave na ovu temu biti će premještene jer ovo je tema o mlijeku!


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