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Nepročitano 12-12-18, 10:40   #121
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Ovako, helikobakter u stvari ima u želudcu svaki čovjek, to znaju i lekari.
Čovjek koji ima ulkus, ima i više helikobaktera, što je prirodno, jer helikobakter zapravo lječi ulkus. To če tebi sada biti malo sporno, ali je tako. Ako si na ovom forumu, smatram da tražiš nešto alternativno.
Ja ti mogu pomoči, ali moraš prestati uzimate sve drugo, ako želiš uspjeh.
Kao prvo, ne znam kakva je tvoja ishrana, ali od trenutka dalje kad počneš sa mojim savjetom, moraš prestati jesti sve što je životinjskog porjekla.
Kao drugo neče iči prvi 14 dana bez farmacije, jer skoro sigurno imaš ulkus i to te peče. Zbog toga moraš kupiti u apoteci tablete RANITAL ili nešto slično, što se dobije bez lekara, da ti zaustavi rad PROTOSNKE PUMPE, što znači, da se želudčna kiselina (hcl) neče izljevati u želudac, pa zbog toga nečeš imati problema sa kiselinom.
E sad, kad neče tamo biti kiseline mi možemo zdraviti taj ulkus, ali ne smiješ ubacivati kisele hrane. Ne znam dali u Hrvatskoj možete nekde kupiti GEMODERIVATE, ako ne možete onda ih moraš kupiti u Italiji ili Romuniji, za ti dve znam.
Kupi 2 boce (60 ml) FICUS CARICA (figa) i 2 boce TILIA TOMENTOSA (lipa) ...uzimaj 3 puta na dan 15 minuta pre jela- kapi stavi u 2 dcl vode.
Gemoderivati su macerati na osnovi alkohola i glicerola.
14. dana uzimaj Ranital ( 150 mg ujutro i 150 mg naveče)i gemoderivate, a posle samo gemoderivate i 100% češ se izlječiti. Kad prestaneš sa ranitalom, onda možeš i neko lagano meso (malo po malo) jer češ opet imati kiseline u želudcu.
Što se tiče toga, da imaš sa želudcem probleme, moraš uraditi i nešto sa uzrukom da je do toga došlo.
Ti imaš konflikt u svom teritoriu, to bi mogao biti posao, dakle ljudi sa posla, žena, djeca....ljutna u teritotiju ti je to uradila i ako se ne pobrineš za to, opet češ imate probleme, tako da misli na to u prvom redu.
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Ovako, helikobakter u stvari ima u želudcu svaki čovjek, to znaju i lekari.
Čovjek koji ima ulkus, ima i više helikobaktera, što je prirodno, jer helikobakter zapravo lječi ulkus. To če tebi sada biti malo sporno, ali je tako. Ako si na ovom forumu, smatram da tražiš nešto alternativno.
Ja ti mogu pomoči, ali moraš prestati uzimate sve drugo, ako želiš uspjeh.
Kao prvo, ne znam kakva je tvoja ishrana, ali od trenutka dalje kad počneš sa mojim savjetom, moraš prestati jesti sve što je životinjskog porjekla.
Kao drugo neče iči prvi 14 dana bez farmacije, jer skoro sigurno imaš ulkus i to te peče. Zbog toga moraš kupiti u apoteci tablete RANITAL ili nešto slično, što se dobije bez lekara, da ti zaustavi rad PROTOSNKE PUMPE, što znači, da se želudčna kiselina (hcl) neče izljevati u želudac, pa zbog toga nečeš imati problema sa kiselinom.
E sad, kad neče tamo biti kiseline mi možemo zdraviti taj ulkus, ali ne smiješ ubacivati kisele hrane. Ne znam dali u Hrvatskoj možete nekde kupiti GEMODERIVATE, ako ne možete onda ih moraš kupiti u Italiji ili Romuniji, za ti dve znam.
Kupi 2 boce (60 ml) FICUS CARICA (figa) i 2 boce TILIA TOMENTOSA (lipa) ...uzimaj 3 puta na dan 15 minuta pre jela- kapi stavi u 2 dcl vode.
Gemoderivati su macerati na osnovi alkohola i glicerola.
14. dana uzimaj Ranital ( 150 mg ujutro i 150 mg naveče)i gemoderivate, a posle samo gemoderivate i 100% češ se izlječiti. Kad prestaneš sa ranitalom, onda možeš i neko lagano meso (malo po malo) jer češ opet imati kiseline u želudcu.
Što se tiče toga, da imaš sa želudcem probleme, moraš uraditi i nešto sa uzrukom da je do toga došlo.
Ti imaš konflikt u svom teritoriu, to bi mogao biti posao, dakle ljudi sa posla, žena, djeca....ljutna u teritotiju ti je to uradila i ako se ne pobrineš za to, opet češ imate probleme, tako da misli na to u prvom redu.
Nemam čir tj ulkus, radio sam gastroskopiju prije mjesec dana, samo gerb, malu hijatalnu, i doljni dio želuca erozivan tu je se biopsijom pronašla heliko bakterija, tj ona je uzrok zapaljena sluznice, najveci simptom je slabiji apetit i nadutost i tesko podrigivanje, bol ponekad rijetko i to od kako sam krenio sa bamija tinkurom i čajem neki cca 10 dana koristim evo. Znam je da dosta ljudi ima tu bakteriju bez vecih problema, i znam da je stres jedan od okidaca, od farmacije pijem samo emarenu ujutro zbog radi kiseline i od kako je pijem nema žarenja više, znaci potrebno je iskorijenit heliko da bi se želudac oporavio, probao sam manuka med ništa, pio mastika kapsule isto ništa, sada trenutno koristim bamiju i jucer mi stiglo ulje origana

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Nemam čir tj ulkus, radio sam gastroskopiju prije mjesec dana, samo gerb, malu hijatalnu, i doljni dio želuca erozivan tu je se biopsijom pronašla heliko bakterija, tj ona je uzrok zapaljena sluznice, najveci simptom je slabiji apetit i nadutost i tesko podrigivanje, bol ponekad rijetko i to od kako sam krenio sa bamija tinkurom i čajem neki cca 10 dana koristim evo. Znam je da dosta ljudi ima tu bakteriju bez vecih problema, i znam da je stres jedan od okidaca, od farmacije pijem samo emarenu ujutro zbog radi kiseline i od kako je pijem nema žarenja više, znaci potrebno je iskorijenit heliko da bi se želudac oporavio, probao sam manuka med ništa, pio mastika kapsule isto ništa, sada trenutno koristim bamiju i jucer mi stiglo ulje origana

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Pozdrav, moguće da ti je uzrok i propusna crijeva, jer otrovi/toksini mogu od ispod opterečivat želudac koji se potom brani povečanim lučenjem kiseline.

Za reguliranje želučane kiseline preporučam gastavit/reduflux koji djeluju bez nuspojava (koliko ja znam).

Promjena prehrane svakako i probati sa pročišćenom soda birkarbonom da smiri žeudac.

Imaju i probiotici za želudac iako osobno nisam svjedok djelovanja pa to mogu samo usput spomenuti.

Za treitranje patogena (i bakterija u crijevima) preporučam zapper, MMS i biljke poput đumbira; također Oleocaps ima dobre kapsule s eteičnim uljima za oralnu uporabu.
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Sve ja to razumijem i logično da ljek pomagajuči za jedno radi deset drugih problema, i ne planiram ih uzimat cijeli život, trenutno mi jako pomažu jer od kako uzimam nemam refluks, prije nego sam ih uzimao čaša vode bi mo radila zgaravicu.

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Pozdrav, moguće da ti je uzrok i propusna crijeva, jer otrovi/toksini mogu od ispod opterečivat želudac koji se potom brani povečanim lučenjem kiseline.

Za reguliranje želučane kiseline preporučam gastavit/reduflux koji djeluju bez nuspojava (koliko ja znam).

Promjena prehrane svakako i probati sa pročišćenom soda birkarbonom da smiri žeudac.

Imaju i probiotici za želudac iako osobno nisam svjedok djelovanja pa to mogu samo usput spomenuti.

Zašto zaboga uzimati antacide??? Jesi li pogledao objašnjenje zbog čega to ne treba raditi?

Zašto nije bolje uzeti HCL s betainom i pepsinom i rješavati uzrok problema a ne kreirati novi???

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