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Nepročitano 23-12-14, 15:17   #51
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Razumijem što je BP htjela reći pod "tišinom", ali mislim da u konačnici ne treba tražiti neko veliko opravdanje ako čovjek ne osjeća potrebu imati djecu. Pa nije to nikakav zločin.

Mislim da bi bilo daleko bolje kad bi svi bili malo odgovorniji prije donošenja odluke o začeću pa bi bilo puno manje nesretnih, zlostavljanih, zanemarenih itd.


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Nepročitano 24-12-14, 08:39   #53
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Dakle, od člana s nickom hlapić sam dobila privatnu poruku sljedećeg sadržaja (kopipejstam je, ne preuzimam odgovornost za nepismenost dičnog autora )

normalna si lezbice...ta kako bi sa svojom draganom uopće mogla imati dijecu...no kad se zakoni promjene možda se i predomisliš...

Baš mi je žao da hlapić nije bio dovoljno hrabar da ovo iznese javno.

I poruka hlapiću: suprug me smatra heteroseksualnom osobom. I ja se smatram takvom. Moguće je biti heteroseksualnog opredjeljenja, imati supruga (odnosno, supružnika suprotnog spola) i ne željeti dijete. Utabana staza nikada nije jedini put.

Izgleda da sam bocnula svetu kravu pa stvarno svašta dolazi do izražaja
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mislim da češ prije prosvjetlit sa djecom nego bez njih...kad te stanu vozat okolo naokolo ...tad se uključe tajni resursi preživljavanja i sve ti se prosvjetli u trenutku.
Možda da a možda i ne: ne igra svako dobro određenu ulogu, niti postoji apsolutna mogućnost da određenu ulogu izabereš, jer nekad i prijespomenuta izabere tebe, pa je odigraš ovako ili onako.
Tipizacije nisu dobre: npr., da u plemenima žive onako a u civilizaciji ovako — zbog toga što i plemenski život ima razne nijanse, baš kao i civilizacijski: od vječnih ljubavi, preko izopćenih članova i ratničkih ili miroljubivih grupa, do biljaka koje muškarci kontraceptivno koriste.
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Žene koje su požalile odluku da budu majke - o tome treba progovoriti:

http://jezebel.com/we-need-to-talk-a...ood-1635470629

I've never felt the soul-clenching desire to become a mother. I don't want the physical changes it entails, the career and physical break it requires or the great deal of responsibility that soon follows. I'm too much of a free spirit.

Babies are adorable, but babies grow up. A child is a blessing, but a child is also the biggest responsibility. Do my thoughts make me selfish? Perhaps. But there is also selfishness in wanting a child to avoid loneliness.

I spent about five years with a man I thought I loved, or maybe did love. I battled with the notion that because I'm a woman I should want to be a mother. I thought that if I spent enough time with other people's children -- and believe me I did -- the feeling would come. At times, I hoped for simplicity reasons that it would... but it didn't. And it hasn't.

I will not succumb to the expectations of society. If I ever choose to be a mother, it will be because I truly, profoundly and without a doubt want to be a mother. Society can call me selfish and criticize me for being different, but I prefer that a million times over than to have my child look me in the eyes and sense even the slightest hint of resentment.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gerald...b_5091223.html

I am fortunate to have a life that is full of children: the ones I’m related to, the ones who are my godchildren, the ones whose parents' wills I am written into as unofficial guardian. I adore them, they adore me, and we will be a part of each other’s lives permanently. But my life is also my own, and I am very, very free to do as I chose. That is a big deal, and something I value beyond measure. Sometimes I imagine traveling back in time to any point prior to 1972 and telling women how much freedom I have: I get to have children in my life, and I also get to have a life without them. Which I suppose in many ways means I’m living life as men have been allowed to live it, time out of mind. Perhaps I do have it all.

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Ovo je povelika doza anti-tabu lijeka! A primijetila sam da anti-tabu u nekih ljudi zna imati detoksikacijski učinak

Kad nekim ljudima kažete da, unatoč svim savršenim uvjetima, ne želite imati djecu, zbunjen pogled u njihovim očima otkriva da se u tom trenutku zapravo prvi put susreću s pomišlju da je to nešto o čemu se može samostalno odlučiti.
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Ovo je povelika doza anti-tabu lijeka! A primijetila sam da anti-tabu u nekih ljudi zna imati detoksikacijski učinak

Kad nekim ljudima kažete da, unatoč svim savršenim uvjetima, ne želite imati djecu, zbunjen pogled u njihovim očima otkriva da se u tom trenutku zapravo prvi put susreću s pomišlju da je to nešto o čemu se može samostalno odlučiti.
Žene su odgajane da šute o tome u kulturi žrtve. Agresiju iskazuju na razno razne načine, samo ne otvoreno jer je to zabranjeno. Taj tabu i podržavaju žene i tako čine 'veliku uslugu' ženskim generacijama u obitelji. I tako u krug.

Taj pogled kako ti kažeš nije zbunjen, već je to početak najdubljeg bijesa i frustracija kojega žene tada počnu osjećati, a ne smiju si to priuštiti jer tradicija i vjera zabranjuju. I konflikti krenu raditi svoje.

I sam porod je jedno od načina ušutkivanja žene. Nisam još vidjela niti jednu ženu poletnu, razmahanu nakon poroda i neko vrijeme nakon, jer je to ogromna trauma kako za fizičko tijelo tako i emotivno i mentalno. Šokirane su što tretmanom što razvojem događaja( pogotovo žene koje prvi puta rađaju) tako da se povuku u sebe koliko mogu i trpe. Jer ih nitko ionako ne doživljava previše pošto je u prvom planu novo rođeno dijete. Te postporođajne traume su vrlo česte, samo one ekstremne su vidljive, a svako takvo ponašanje žene se odmah osuđuje i osjećaj krivnje se produbljuje. Često puta to zna trajati i par godina iza poroda u slučaju da u međuvremenu ne zatrudne( ako da , to je još dodatna trauma). Stoga nije niti za čuditi se kako žene počinju imati zdravstvenih problema( ginekoloških ponajviše) paralelno sa zahtjevima u odgoju i podizanju djece. Na taj način žene propadaju fizički, emotivno i mentalno, pa sa negdje 40-tak umjesto da ulaze u najbolju životnu dob, često puta sliče na ruševine koje se prekriju bojom, šminkom i osmjehom.
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Da imam kunu za svaki: "pa moram nastaviti lozu" razlog koji sam čula, bila bih bogata.

Presmiješan mi je to razlog - kaj to uopće znači?
pa to uvek znaci =>a kaj ce ostati posle tebe?
i kako im Vi drage dame odgovorite kaj ce ostati posle Vas
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