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nakon "ne" i "nis" tu je i "jebote".

virus prisutan u jeziku vec duze vrijeme.
"i tako ja, jebote, idem doma, i jebote, sretnem prijatelja."

covjek bi pomislio da su samo jako primitivni i vulgarni ljudi zarazeni i da su u manjini. ono sto je zapanjujuce, je da i ljudi koji jako rijetko psuju koriste taj izraz u govoru. ovako bi to zvucalo na engleskom.

"and so im, fuckyou, going home, and i fuckyou, meet a friend."

takvi izrazi se zovu kletve ili proklinjanja.
koriste se kao reakcija na bol. npr., covjek se udari, osjeti bol i kune.
kletvom izbacuje negativnu energiju koju trenutno osjeca van iz sebe i zbog toga se osjeca malo bolje.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...y-do-we-swear/
"Swearing is such a common response to pain that there has to be an underlying reason why we do it," says psychologist Richard Stephens of Keele University in England


zakljucak je da su ljudi trenutno puni boli koju kletvom proslijedjuju sugovornicima u redovitim porcijama, a s razlogom boli se odbijaju suociti.

po kolicini i raznolikosti kletvi smo svjetska velesila.
zasto je ovaj narod toliko proklet i zasto se, umjesto suocavanja s razlogom prokletstva, proklinjemo jos vise?

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to je u ovom slucaju obicna postapalica, a takve stvari opcenito nema smisla prevoditi doslovno na druge jezike.


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to je u ovom slucaju obicna postapalica, a takve stvari opcenito nema smisla prevoditi doslovno na druge jezike.
naravno da je postapalica/virus. pitanje bi bilo zasto je "jebo te (be)" postala postapalica?

sto fali prijevodu?

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Takvih postapalica ima jako mnogo. ZNACI,PROSTO,OVOGA,GENERALNO,i jos mnoge,i odraz su siromastva u recniku,usled slabe komunikacije medju ljudima,i nenacitanosti.Zatim tu su jos i nepotrebne reci iz engleskog jezika,koje su se isto tvdokorno uvukle u svakodnevni govor...
STEJDZ,WOW,LOL,Itd,znate i sami.Trebalo bi se nekako boriti protiv toga.O upotrebi jezika bi se moglo govoriti,mnogo je nepravilnosti.
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nakon "ne" i "nis" tu je i "jebote".

virus prisutan u jeziku vec duze vrijeme.
"i tako ja, jebote, idem doma, i jebote, sretnem prijatelja."

covjek bi pomislio da su samo jako primitivni i vulgarni ljudi zarazeni i da su u manjini. ono sto je zapanjujuce, je da i ljudi koji jako rijetko psuju koriste taj izraz u govoru. ovako bi to zvucalo na engleskom.

"and so im, fuckyou, going home, and i fuckyou, meet a friend."

takvi izrazi se zovu kletve ili proklinjanja.
koriste se kao reakcija na bol. npr., covjek se udari, osjeti bol i kune.
kletvom izbacuje negativnu energiju koju trenutno osjeca van iz sebe i zbog toga se osjeca malo bolje.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...y-do-we-swear/
"Swearing is such a common response to pain that there has to be an underlying reason why we do it," says psychologist Richard Stephens of Keele University in England


zakljucak je da su ljudi trenutno puni boli koju kletvom proslijedjuju sugovornicima u redovitim porcijama, a s razlogom boli se odbijaju suociti.

po kolicini i raznolikosti kletvi smo svjetska velesila.
zasto je ovaj narod toliko proklet i zasto se, umjesto suocavanja s razlogom prokletstva, proklinjemo jos vise?
tema ti je

Gle, možeš to tumačiti i kao dobre želje umjesto kletvi... (naravno, ovisi tko prema tebi ima takve namjere....)
Npr, sa zadovoljstvom bi to slušala od finog, zgodnog frajera.....


Sad ozbiljno.....mislim da smo uistinu zemlja, podneblje sa previše proklinjanja. U Dalmaciji je još uvijek normalno da majka u ljutnji pedeset puta dnevno djetetu kaže "vrag ti sriću odnija".
Boga se proklinje (obzirom na izuzetno vjerničku zemlju) u iznimno velikim količinama....poslije mu se moli za pomoć... (to mi je potpuno nejasno pogotovo kad se neko kune da je vjernik a to radi).
Generalno gledano, narodi Balkana su potpuno nesvjesni moći riječi... poslijedice su vrlo vidljive.




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Takvih postapalica ima jako mnogo. ZNACI,PROSTO,OVOGA,GENERALNO,i jos mnoge,i odraz su siromastva u recniku,usled slabe komunikacije medju ljudima,i nenacitanosti.Zatim tu su jos i nepotrebne reci iz engleskog jezika,koje su se isto tvdokorno uvukle u svakodnevni govor...
STEJDZ,WOW,LOL,Itd,znate i sami.Trebalo bi se nekako boriti protiv toga.O upotrebi jezika bi se moglo govoriti,mnogo je nepravilnosti.

Slažem se. Ove engleske podšapalice su više odraz "biti cool" nego što su potrebne. Inače, izbjegavam upotrebu stranih riječi jer se još živo sjećam što nam je profesor hrvatskog stalno govorio...djeco, govorite svoj jezik koji je bogat... A i njih koriste (čast izuzecima) nesigurni ljudi. Daje im osjećaj da su mudriji i pametniji iako ih malo tko razumije što su rekli.
Ali jezik je živ, mijenja se sa svakom novom generacijom i prirodno je da nakon ovakve globalizacije i nametanja engleskog kao svjetskog jezika utekne pokoja riječ i stopi se sa narodnim jezikom.

Poštapalice se često koriste jer prebrzo i svašta govorimo. Kad bi usporili govor, promišljali što ćemo reći, govor bi bio kraći ali tečniji. Više bi nalikovao onome što pišemo (tu se poštapalice vrlo malo koriste).

Ali kad se psovke i proklinjanja koriste kao poštapalice, e tu je već nešto dublje u pozadini....




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Čitam naslov teme i prvo pomislim da si virus ebole prekrstio u "jebote" .

Mda, poštapalice su odraz i posljedica slabog obrazovanja i najbolji pokazatelj što našem školskom programu nužno i hitno treba - kultura govorenja i debatiranja. Da bi se do toga došlo potrebno je mnogo čitati, a što djeca najviše izbjegavaju (osim matke)? - pa lektiru. Pitam se zašto.

Trebalo bi u škole pod obavezno uvesti govorništvo. A i rodtelji bi se trebali naučiti razgovarati više i bolje sa svojom djecom (od najmlađe dobi) i pružiti im uzor. Kako će dijete koje i ne čuje drugo osim "jebote", razgovarati na drugačiji način?

No, ima još jedna druga stvar, a to je da narodi balkana definitivno imaju i koriste najviše psovki (osim možda mađara). Nimalo čudno nije da ti je svaka druga u rečenici "jebote" (i to je još među blažim poštapalicama) - a katolički narod samo takav! Ovakve se stvari ne susreću u islamskim zemljama niti kod židova. Oni itekako paze što i kako govore. Zašto? Jesu li drugačije odgajani odmalena?, imaju li drugačiji sustav i program školovanja ...? Ne znam.

Kako sam živjela posvuda u svijetu, imam dosta dobar pregled kako je u drugim zemljama, npr. talijani prekrasno govore - bez obzira da li je netko nižeg obrazovanja ili višeg, sve misli uobličavaju s lakoćom, izražavaju se tečno, jednostavno, bez poštapalica i psovki. Jednako tako i skandinavci.

Nekako mi se čini da smo uistinu mi na dnu po tom pitanju. Nesvjesni svoje nesvjesti.


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Čitam naslov teme i prvo pomislim da si virus ebole prekrstio u "jebote" .

Mda, poštapalice su odraz i posljedica slabog obrazovanja i najbolji pokazatelj što našem školskom programu nužno i hitno treba - kultura govorenja i debatiranja. Da bi se do toga došlo potrebno je mnogo čitati, a što djeca najviše izbjegavaju (osim matke)? - pa lektiru. Pitam se zašto.


pa di baš ebola....


Djelomično se slažem s ovim što si napisala da su podšapalice posljedica slabog obrazovanja....ako je itko slabo obrazovan (generalno) to su talijani, a ipak lijepo i tečno govore. Isto tako, mnoštvo je ljudi sa jedva završenom osnovnom a ne psuju i ne proklinju.
Prekomjerna upotreba toga je više znak nesigurnosti, pomanjkanja samopouzdanja što je isto tako zanimljiva odlika ovog podneblja.
Dakle, uzroci su u odgoju koji se prenosi sa generacije na generaciju.




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Čitam naslov teme i prvo pomislim da si virus ebole prekrstio u "jebote" .


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pa di baš ebola....


Djelomično se slažem s ovim što si napisala da su podšapalice posljedica slabog obrazovanja....ako je itko slabo obrazovan (generalno) to su talijani, a ipak lijepo i tečno govore. Isto tako, mnoštvo je ljudi sa jedva završenom osnovnom a ne psuju i ne proklinju.
Prekomjerna upotreba toga je više znak nesigurnosti, pomanjkanja samopouzdanja što je isto tako zanimljiva odlika ovog podneblja.
Dakle, uzroci su u odgoju koji se prenosi sa generacije na generaciju.
I to što kažeš.

Ali, ako imaš dovoljno bogat vokabular da s lakoćom možeš uobličiti, odnosno verbalizirati svoje misli i emocije, onda su poštapalice nepotrebne, ne?


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