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Nepročitano 05-12-14, 13:37   #11
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Ja sam pričala o čitanju sanskrta
Drago mi je da ti je to zabava, ali onda ne razumijem čemu otvaranje više tema i zašto je to pod podforumom Metafizika i duhovnost? To je onda za Brbljaonicu...
ozbiljna zabava.


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Ovo je forum alternative.. po čemu je ovo alternativni pristup, i to izgleda alternativni pristup filozofiji jezika? Filozofija jezika već postoji, zato ću opet naglasiti da je najbolje početi s osnovama i proučiti ono što je već netko proučio. Em si skratiš vrijeme, em ti je jasnije, em su manje šanse da zabrazdiš ili povučeš druge.
mozda je filozofija jezika pogresna.
da je dobra vec bi se odavno svi medjusobno razumijeli.


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Nemoj me krivo shvatiti, pišem ovo s dobrom namjerom
put, dobre namjere itd. (rece on i izrastu mu rogovi)


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s obzirom na to da je sanskrt dio moje profesije znam koliko je ovo bezveze. Jako se često događa da ljudi zabrazde u jezik, pogotovo u sanskrt - jer vežu pojam "svetog" uz njega. Pa se meditira na potpuno bezvezne riječi, ili još gore - slova Ako ti je ovo zabava, jasno to istakni. Iznenadio bi se na kakve sve ideje dolaze ljudi u vezi sanskrta, a samo zbog neinformiranosti, i onda od tebe "stručnjaka" traže potvrde... Zato velim, budi oprezan jer drugima možeš staviti bube u uši.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSLmqg5fLdc


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Promatraj malo sanskrt zasebno pa ćeš vidjeti da mu uopće ne treba drugi jezik da bude darežljiv
dosta mi je odvajanja i posebnosti.
volio bi da otvoris i drugo oko.

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sveta krava je rodila zlatno tele. zove se Ja.
Ti si ka prvo mene ,ka i dosta njih prije tebe potako da malo prebrišem prašinu sa starih knjiga,a samim tim odradim 'red-rad-disciplina ' ,hvala ti nakon kojega naravno slijedi i nagrada

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- to si ti

" Ono što je sićušno jezgro, to je svojstvo svega postojećeg; to je bivstvo, to je Atman, to si ti"

Razgovor mladog Svetuketu sa svojim ocem lipo to pojašnjava
-Molimte,poštovani oče,reci mi još o tom Atmanu.
-Neka tako bude. Donesi plod Njagrodina drveta .
-Evo ga, oče.
-Rascijepi ga.
-Rascijepio sam ga oče.
-Uzmi jedno i otvori ga.
-Evo,otvorio sam ga,oče.
-Šta u njemu vidiš?
-Ništa ,oče.
-Ti ne vidiš tananu bit,a ona i jest Njagrodino drvo. Znaj ,sine moj,ono što je tanana bit - u tome sve stvari imaju svoje postojanje. To je istina. To je Atman. A to, Svetuketu TO SI TI.


Ovu spoznaju je Šopenhauer visoko cijenio i nazvao "plodom najviše nauke i ljudske mudrosti"


Sad si zamisli ovaku sliku razgovora da se odvija u današnje vrime
Ja vidim mladog Svetuketua da koluta očima dok izgovara da,oče..,nažalost ,,,al šta je tu je
Ae,tu bi onda skroz pasalo ono tvoje zlatno tele (koje bleji ) s početka priče
A ka kec na jedanaest i ona stara rečenica oca iz jedne davne tvserije : Tale sine,magare moje malo.....


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Što ne ide ,aum(om) nama shivaja .?!
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Što ne ide ,aum(om) nama shivaja .?!
a m i v su dosta slicni glasovi pa se vjerojatno u transliteraciji/kripciji mjesa. U uobicajenim medjunarodnim znanstvenim transliteracijama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...ransliteration) se j pise kao y (a kad se pise j cita se kao đ). H na kraju rijeci se ne cita vec se radi o svojevrsnom rekao bih poluglasu, "tvrdom a" ili kako vec da opisem (najbolje cuti). Medjutim tada niti Š nije pisano kao Sh vec sa specificnom dijakritikom (ovisno koji š, postoje dva znaka iako je to naravno samo priblizno nasem š).

U hrvatskom se standardu pak (kada nije transliteracija u pitanju) koristi "vukovski" za hindi i sanskrt (pravopis Matice Hrvatske), osim ako se radi o rijecima koje su vec udomacene iz engleskog poput nekih toponima ili osobnih imena.

Ovo kako je on napisao nije niti znanstveni niti standardno hrvatski vec standardno engleski nacin pisanja sa time da je izmjenio m u v u odnosu na uobicajeno.

To je pogresno u svakom slucaju, ako cemop biti gramar naciji jer se ispravno moze pisati samo na dva nacina:

znanstvena transliteracija: Oṃ Namaḥ Śivāya

hrvatski: Om nama Šivaja

ali necemo bit gramar naciji, ispravno ili ne ovo englesko pisanje se dosta uvuklo u nelektoriranu svakodnevnu javnu upotrebu (internet, ponekad losi sektaski izvori i prevodi te u jugo vremenima i prave gomile jeftinih i uzasno losih srpskih prevoda) pa ga moramo trpit :D


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Legenda o nastanku tantričkih centara

Dakle,Dakša ,otac Šivine žene Sati priredio je svečanost na koju je pozvao sve bogove osim Sati i Šive koga nije trpio
Ovo dvoje se ipak nekako provuklo na veliko nezadovoljsktvo Dakše jer je Šiva bio prljav, nikad odjeven,a uvik okičen velikim brojem zmija - uopće, neprikladan za društvo bogova.Na razloge i proteste svog oca Sati se toliko uvridila da je skočila u vatru i usmrtila se.
Vidjevši ovo, Šiva se razbjesni , napravi dar-mar, rasturi svečanost, pokupi ostatke Sati i nestane u nebeskim predjelima. Slučajno je tuda prolazia Višnu leteći na svom orlu. On preuze ostatke Sati koje je zatim razbacao po čitavom prostranstvu indijskog potkontinenta. Mjesta na koja su ovi ostaci pali postala su tantrički centri...

Pari mi se da bi ova legenda mogla biti i priča mladih i ostalih ljudi koji krajnje zapušteni i prljavi,puni iluzija o pročišćenju duha o dostizanju najvišeg oslobođenja,omamljeni "drogama" odlaze u svoj "raj" iz kojeg se većina ne vraća.
Tragičan kraj ili razočarenje ovi mladi ljudi doživljavaju zbog svoje neupućenosti a naručito zbog svoje nestrpljivosti : oni žele da šta je moguće brže dospiju do samoga vrha, do najvišeg stupnja saznanja---do samadhija

Nažalost nema kruha bez motike,a i samadhija bez puuno rada na sebi,čišćenja i strpljivog rada na sebi da bi upravo sebe dali ovom svitu u svom punom potencijalu!



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Sam da sitnicu dodam, da netko ne bi pomislio kako su tantricki centri nesto ko komaja zajednice :D

Radi se u stvari o šaktistickim mjestima stovanja (šakti pitovi - najcesce su izgradjeni hramovi), dakle svetistima posvecenima razlicitim oblicima stovanja Bozice. Tantricko je u sirem smislu.


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a m i v su dosta slicni glasovi pa se vjerojatno u transliteraciji/kripciji mjesa.
Ne baš, ali dobar pokušaj..
Vjerojatno si mislio na B i V? To se jako često miješa kod vedina u Bengalu npr. A onda se miješaju i Z i Đ zbog arapsko-perzijskog utjecaja u govoru i pismu itd.
Ali M i V ne tj. nema razloga. Jednostavno je mantra krivo napisana, ništa više


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Ne baš, ali dobar pokušaj..
Vjerojatno si mislio na B i V? To se jako često miješa kod vedina u Bengalu npr. A onda se miješaju i Z i Đ zbog arapsko-perzijskog utjecaja u govoru i pismu itd.
Ali M i V ne tj. nema razloga. Jednostavno je mantra krivo napisana, ništa više

B i P.
F i V.

pudalo jedna blafa.

K i G.
T i D.

goja klupost, poli me tupe.

itd...

fali nam slovo EU, eng. simbol zrcalna 6ica, kod citanja rijeci. npr towel - T A EU.
uzdah, stenjanje, kod sexa npr.

fali nam slovo za uzdah sexa u jeziku. fali nam jezicnog sexa?

oso ja u debeli Offtopic koji je ujedno OnTopic.

postao sam oxymoron. vol i moron istovremeno.
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oso ja u debeli Offtopic koji je ujedno OnTopic.

postao sam oxymoron. vol i moron istovremeno.
ae,, a na početku bia si tele sad još samo da stigneš do Indije,pa budeš poštovana sveta krava

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Dva čovjeka,jedan hrom,a drugi slijep,tražili su, svaki za sebe, put za izlazak iz đungle. Da bi ostvarili svoju namjeru odlučili su da se udruže. Hromi se popeo na ramena slijepoga i davao upute za kretanje. Tako su obojica, tj. duša i tijelo,stigli na željeni cilj


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ae,, a na početku bia si tele sad još samo da stigneš do Indije,pa budeš poštovana sveta krava
nasao indiju. trazio je po ameriki, odustao i ona se manifestirala. ja sam anti-kolumbo, put nam je suprotan, a ja hermeticki sutim gdje i kako.

trenutno sam radje crveni bik nego plava krava.

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dosta transfera i novih verzija. nek se filo pobrine za bio. nema tu vise ili.


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