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Shaivism (Sanskrit: शैव पंथ, śaiva paṁtha) (Kannada: ಶೈವ ಪಂಥ) (Tamil: சைவ சமயம்) is the oldest of the four major sects of Hinduism, the others being Vaishnavism, Shaktism and Smartism. Followers of Shaivism, called "Shaivas", and also "Saivas" or "Saivites", revere Shiva as the Supreme Being. Shaivas believe that Shiva is All and in all, the creator, preserver, destroyer, revealer and concealer of all that is.


Aum Navah Shivaya - Sve (se) Klanja Stvoritelju/Unistitelju Ja.
aum - homme , sve - covjek


Shiva :
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- vache (https://www.google.hr/search?q=vache...M&ved=0CDMQsAQ), (fra. kra-va)


"In Egyptian mythology, the Milky Way was considered a pool of cow's milk. It was deified as fertility cow-goddess Hathor."

holy cow - galaxy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hathor

golden calf - Ya - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun


sveta krava je rodila zlatno tele. zove se Ja.
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nije da znam sanskrt, ali koliko mogu ovako na slijepo primjetiti "po zvucnosti" ya bi bio obicni gramaticki nastavak koji oznacava neko stanje pripadanja, odnosno nesto se odnosi na nesto (tj radnja se odnosi na objekt sa tim sufiksom,objektu nesto pripada ili posjeduje neko svojstvo). Mozda sam doekle pogrijesio sa opisom gramatickog svojstva ali mislim da nije previse. taj se sufiks moze naci na svemu zivom u odgovarajucem recenicnom kontekstu. Nisam siguran da ima neko preveliko misticno znacenje.

Aum se isto svakako da tumacit :D


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nije da znam sanskrt, ali koliko mogu ovako na slijepo primjetiti "po zvucnosti" ya bi bio obicni gramaticki nastavak koji oznacava neko stanje pripadanja, odnosno nesto se odnosi na nesto (tj radnja se odnosi na objekt sa tim sufiksom,objektu nesto pripada ili posjeduje neko svojstvo). Mozda sam doekle pogrijesio sa opisom gramatickog svojstva ali mislim da nije previse. taj se sufiks moze naci na svemu zivom u odgovarajucem recenicnom kontekstu. Nisam siguran da ima neko preveliko misticno znacenje.

Aum se isto svakako da tumacit :D
vidis metodu koju koristim za tumacenje?

tu ima puno svasta i svega i svacega da bi dobio nesto, a da mi to nesto ima smisla i da se priblizi nekoj tocnosti.

a mislim da je ovaj nas jezik neka vrsta univerzalnog cuspajza jezika.


ps. grci su morali smislit konja da im trojanci otvore vrata. drago mi te vidjet da pises.
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sto kazes na ovo, soul(eng) - sol(lat)?
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nije da znam sanskrt, ali koliko mogu ovako na slijepo primjetiti "po zvucnosti" ya bi bio obicni gramaticki nastavak koji oznacava neko stanje pripadanja, odnosno nesto se odnosi na nesto (tj radnja se odnosi na objekt sa tim sufiksom,objektu nesto pripada ili posjeduje neko svojstvo). Mozda sam doekle pogrijesio sa opisom gramatickog svojstva ali mislim da nije previse. taj se sufiks moze naci na svemu zivom u odgovarajucem recenicnom kontekstu. Nisam siguran da ima neko preveliko misticno znacenje.

Aum se isto svakako da tumacit :D
Tako je, nastavak -aya je genitivni u ovoj deklinaciji. Nikakve veze s ovime što pričaš kLick Zna se što je sanskrt i kako se on analizira i na koji se način povezuje s ostalim jezicima u poredbenoj analizi.

Mislim da malo previše brazdiš u te svoje analize... na silu "dokazuješ" da je nešto povezano. Tim principom možeš sve i svašta "objasniti". Ako ti je to vrsta zabave, onda ok, ali neki ljudi bi itekako mogli pomisliti da si ozbiljan i poistovjetiti se s time što pišeš. Budi oprezan, zbog sebe prije svega, ali i zbog drugih koji te čitaju.

Za ostalo neću govoriti jer nisam stručnjak, ali kada pišeš o sanskrtu i devanagariju - ne pišeš baš smisleno. Sanskrt je jako pravilan i transparentan jezik (ne mislim nužno semantički!), ono što ti radiš je igranje nasumičnim zvukovima - a ne bih se baš ni kladila da znaš kako pravilno izgovoriti riječi koje pišeš, pa te i to može navesti na pogrešne zaključke. Ako preko jezika želiš povezati neke stvari, nauči barem osnove..ovako doslovno vrijeđaš jezik koji ti zapravo može dati puno odgovora kad mu pravilno pristupiš.


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Tako je, nastavak -aya je genitivni u ovoj deklinaciji. Nikakve veze s ovime što pričaš kLick Zna se što je sanskrt i kako se on analizira i na koji se način povezuje s ostalim jezicima u poredbenoj analizi.
san je skrt.
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Mislim da malo previše brazdiš u te svoje analize... na silu "dokazuješ" da je nešto povezano. Tim principom možeš sve i svašta "objasniti". Ako ti je to vrsta zabave, onda ok, ali neki ljudi bi itekako mogli pomisliti da si ozbiljan i poistovjetiti se s time što pišeš. Budi oprezan, zbog sebe prije svega, ali i zbog drugih koji te čitaju.
potpuno sam ozbiljan u svojoj zabavi.


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Za ostalo neću govoriti jer nisam stručnjak, ali kada pišeš o sanskrtu i devanagariju - ne pišeš baš smisleno. Sanskrt je jako pravilan i transparentan jezik (ne mislim nužno semantički!), ono što ti radiš je igranje nasumičnim zvukovima - a ne bih se baš ni kladila da znaš kako pravilno izgovoriti riječi koje pišeš, pa te i to može navesti na pogrešne zaključke. Ako preko jezika želiš povezati neke stvari, nauči barem osnove..ovako doslovno vrijeđaš jezik koji ti zapravo može dati puno odgovora kad mu pravilno pristupiš.

znam da se vache(fra) cita vash.
znam da se soul cita soouuul(eng), a sol sol(lat).
al kazu da je dusa od Boga, a mislim da je Ja, Sunce.

oprostit ce mi jezik ako ga vrijedjam.
dobro zna da ga zelim spojiti sa drugim jezicima jer je vec predugo usamljen. hvala na pomoci.

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san je skrt.
moram mu dodavati iz drugih jezika da se malo opusti i postane darezljiv.




potpuno sam ozbiljan u svojoj zabavi.




znam da se vache(fra) cita vash.
znam da se soul cita soouuul(eng), a sol sol(lat).
al kazu da je dusa od Boga, a mislim da je Ja, Sunce.

oprostit ce mi jezik ako ga vrijedjam.
dobro zna da ga zelim spojiti sa drugim jezicima jer je vec predugo usamljen. hvala na pomoci.

Ja sam pričala o čitanju sanskrta
Drago mi je da ti je to zabava, ali onda ne razumijem čemu otvaranje više tema i zašto je to pod podforumom Metafizika i duhovnost? To je onda za Brbljaonicu...
Ovo je forum alternative.. po čemu je ovo alternativni pristup, i to izgleda alternativni pristup filozofiji jezika? Filozofija jezika već postoji, zato ću opet naglasiti da je najbolje početi s osnovama i proučiti ono što je već netko proučio. Em si skratiš vrijeme, em ti je jasnije, em su manje šanse da zabrazdiš ili povučeš druge.

Nemoj me krivo shvatiti, pišem ovo s dobrom namjerom s obzirom na to da je sanskrt dio moje profesije znam koliko je ovo bezveze. Jako se često događa da ljudi zabrazde u jezik, pogotovo u sanskrt - jer vežu pojam "svetog" uz njega. Pa se meditira na potpuno bezvezne riječi, ili još gore - slova Ako ti je ovo zabava, jasno to istakni. Iznenadio bi se na kakve sve ideje dolaze ljudi u vezi sanskrta, a samo zbog neinformiranosti, i onda od tebe "stručnjaka" traže potvrde... Zato velim, budi oprezan jer drugima možeš staviti bube u uši.

Promatraj malo sanskrt zasebno pa ćeš vidjeti da mu uopće ne treba drugi jezik da bude darežljiv


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