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Ma, čovjek je najgluplja životinja na planetu!
Nije najgluplja. Samo je jedna od životinja na planetu (po Darwinu). :)
Nema glupih životinja.


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Nije najgluplja. Samo je jedna od životinja na planetu (po Darwinu). :)
Nema glupih životinja.
I beg to differ.

Da argumentiram svoju izjavu: niti jedna životinja na planetu ne uništava planet, svoj okoliš i izvor svoje hrane, pića i skloništa niti ugrožava svoj opstanak destruktivnim ponašanjem.

To čini samo čovjek. Elem ... glup je! Jer pili granu na kojoj sjedi.


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to rade i zivotinje, samo sto nisu sposobne globalno poremetit ravnotezu. Lokalno ce i te kako ako imaju prilike (npr dolazak u novo staniste, promjene nekih vanjskih okolnosti) poremetit ravnotezu dok se ne uspostavi nova. Svaka zivotinja tezi dominaciji, covjek je samo tolko u tome superioran da ce tu teznju morat iskontrolirat da ne unisti citav planet, a ne samo pojedino staniste.


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to rade i zivotinje, samo sto nisu sposobne globalno poremetit ravnotezu. Lokalno ce i te kako ako imaju prilike (npr dolazak u novo staniste, promjene nekih vanjskih okolnosti) poremetit ravnotezu dok se ne uspostavi nova. Svaka zivotinja tezi dominaciji, covjek je samo tolko u tome superioran da ce tu teznju morat iskontrolirat da ne unisti citav planet, a ne samo pojedino staniste.
A sad pročitaj opet moj post pa onda svoj ... ( s razumijevanjem)


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I beg to differ.

Da argumentiram svoju izjavu: niti jedna životinja na planetu ne uništava planet, svoj okoliš i izvor svoje hrane, pića i skloništa niti ugrožava svoj opstanak destruktivnim ponašanjem.

To čini samo čovjek. Elem ... glup je! Jer pili granu na kojoj sjedi.

Životinje nemaju drugog izbora do uništavanja svog okoliša tj. izvora hrane i pića. Životinje ne planiraju koliko će pojesti i popiti već dok ima..ima. Svaki lav i hijena bi bili sretni da mogu potamaniti sve što im se prohtje. Ne iz nekog zlog poriva nego zbog instinkta preživljavanja koji će višem (količinski) dati prioritet nad manjim.

Životinje koriste sve resurse u području u kojem se nalaze. Kada ih iscrpe sele se na druga područja.
Ljudi kao jedna od zemaljskih vrsti isto to rade. Razlika je što je čovijek sposoban bolje procijeniti blisku budućnost na temelju prethodnih iskustva.

"Uništavanje planeta" je bitan pojam nama ljudima jer se radi o našoj koži. Životinjama je taj pojam neprepoznatljiv.


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Životinje nemaju drugog izbora do uništavanja svog okoliša tj. izvora hrane i pića. Životinje ne planiraju koliko će pojesti i popiti već dok ima..ima. Svaki lav i hijena bi bili sretni da mogu potamaniti sve što im se prohtje. Ne iz nekog zlog poriva nego zbog instinkta preživljavanja koji će višem (količinski) dati prioritet nad manjim.

Životinje koriste sve resurse u području u kojem se nalaze. Kada ih iscrpe sele se na druga područja.
Ljudi kao jedna od zemaljskih vrsti isto to rade. Razlika je što je čovijek sposoban bolje procijeniti blisku budućnost na temelju prethodnih iskustva.

"Uništavanje planeta" je bitan pojam nama ljudima jer se radi o našoj koži. Životinjama je taj pojam neprepoznatljiv.
Životinja neće zaklati ili popasti više nego što joj treba - čovjek hoće. Životinja ne zna za pohlepu - čovjek zna!

Ne - životinja ne bi bila sretna da može potamaniti sve u svom krugu, iz razloga - vidi prethodna rečenica.

Čovjek za razliku od životinje posjeduje svijest i razum i može procijeniti posljedice svojih djela, što životinja ne može. Dakle - ako čovjek svjesno uništava svoj okoliš umjesto da ga održava i potpomaže - onda je glup!

I to što radi nije niti približno slično životinji - bilo kojoj.


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Životinja neće zaklati ili popasti više nego što joj treba - čovjek hoće. Životinja ne zna za pohlepu - čovjek zna!
Uspoređuješ dvije potrebe. Životinjska potreba je stvarnija i ispravnija od ljudske?
Btw. pohlepa je potreba.

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Ne - životinja ne bi bila sretna da može potamaniti sve u svom krugu, iz razloga - vidi prethodna rečenica.
Jesi vidila one fotke ogromnih debelih maca koje vlasnici jedva drže u naručju?

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Čovjek za razliku od životinje posjeduje svijest i razum i može procijeniti posljedice svojih djela, što životinja ne može. Dakle - ako čovjek svjesno uništava svoj okoliš umjesto da ga održava i potpomaže - onda je glup!
Čovjek posjeduje svijest i razum onoga što se njega tiče. To ima slabe veze sa okolinom u kojoj živi. I nikakvi vegetarizmi i ljubavi prema životinjama mu neće pomoć u razumijevanju.
Razlog zbog kojeg će ljudska vrsta izumrijeti je upravo današnja prednost.

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I to što radi nije niti približno slično životinji - bilo kojoj.
Jesi vidjela kako hijene taktički cimaju starog lava da ga izmore pa ga krenu grickati? Ne preporučam tu scenu al ako idealiziraš životinje onda bi moglo poslužiti kao hladna pljuska.


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Uspoređuješ dvije potrebe. Životinjska potreba je stvarnija i ispravnija od ljudske?
Gdje sam ja to rekla? Ja nisam uopće nigdje uspoređivala potrebe - ti brkaš pojmove.

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Btw. pohlepa je potreba.
Pohlepa nije potreba! Argumentiraj.
Trebaju mi jedne gaće na riti jer nema potrebe da navučem 5 komada. Treba mi jedan krevet u kojem ću spavati - 33 je nepotrebno. Dakle, postoji jasna granica kada potreba preraste u pohlepu. To što se neki tješe time da je njihova potreba u stvari pohlepa - to je čisto neprihvaćanje činjenica, poricanje očiglednog, tepanje ...

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Jesi vidila one fotke ogromnih debelih maca koje vlasnici jedva drže u naručju?
O jesam. I još mnogo toga što je ljudsko (ne)djelo. Pokaži mi takvu životinju u prirodi.

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Čovjek posjeduje svijest i razum onoga što se njega tiče. To ima slabe veze sa okolinom u kojoj živi. I nikakvi vegetarizmi i ljubavi prema životinjama mu neće pomoć u razumijevanju. Razlog zbog kojeg će ljudska vrsta izumrijeti je upravo današnja prednost.
Odlično. Upravo si podcrtao definiciju gluposti.

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Jesi vidjela kako hijene taktički cimaju starog lava da ga izmore pa ga krenu grickati? Ne preporučam tu scenu al ako idealiziraš životinje onda bi moglo poslužiti kao hladna pljuska.
Da, i? Kakve veze to ima s bilo čime što sam napisala i ustvrdila?


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Životinja neće zaklati ili popasti više nego što joj treba - čovjek hoće. Životinja ne zna za pohlepu - čovjek zna!


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Pohlepa nije potreba! Argumentiraj.
Trebaju mi jedne gaće na riti jer nema potrebe da navučem 5 komada. Treba mi jedan krevet u kojem ću spavati - 33 je nepotrebno. Dakle, postoji jasna granica kada potreba preraste u pohlepu. To što se neki tješe time da je njihova potreba u stvari pohlepa - to je čisto neprihvaćanje činjenica, poricanje očiglednog, tepanje ...
Imaš jedne gaće?

Pohlepa je potreba. Da nema potrebe ne bi bilo pohlepe.
To što svatko od nas ima svoj limit po kojem razlikuje potrebu od suvišne potrebe je druga stvar.


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O jesam. I još mnogo toga što je ljudsko (ne)djelo. Pokaži mi takvu životinju u prirodi.
Jesam, ja ne znam kako da ti kažem neke stvari a da te ne povrijedim.

Ti vlasnici nisu gurali nasilno u mačku hranu samo da bi se slikali!?
Ako mačka jeste čista priroda onda bi ona jela samo onoliko koliko joj treba?


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Da, i? Kakve veze to ima s bilo čime što sam napisala i ustvrdila?
Ako ti je priroda uzor onda bi trebala biti sasvim ok sa lukavom igrom hijena koje satima muče lava koji će biti živ pojeden.


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Imaš jedne gaće?
Ne, imam ih nekoliko. Ali u svakom slučaju manje nego mnogi drugi, pa čak i oni koji su slabijeg imovinskog statusa od mene. Imam ih točno onoliko koliko mi treba i nosim ih dok se ne iznose i ne poderu do kraja. I tako i druge stvari. Iako sam materijalno situirana, vozim jedan mali rabljeni auto, star 13 godina. Do lani, vozila sam auto star 15 godina pa sam ga onda zamijenila za ovaj "mlađi" model. Isto tako imam mobitel od 100 kuna i odjeću kupujem tako da po odjevnom predmetu ne prelazi stotinjak kuna jer je sve preko toga nepotrebno bahaćenje, pohlepa, egotripiranje, razmetanje i gramzivost. A novac koji na taj način uštedim, darujem onima kojima je potrebniji, onima koji si ne mogu sami pomoći i onima kojima život o tome ovisi. Nadam se da si sad shvatio parabolu s jednim gaćama a ne doslovno značenje.

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Pohlepa je potreba. Da nema potrebe ne bi bilo pohlepe. To što svatko od nas ima svoj limit po kojem razlikuje potrebu od suvišne potrebe je druga stvar.
Definiraj potrebu pa onda možemo dalje raspravljati, jer vidim da nam se očigledno pojmovi razlikuju.
Da li je droga potreba? Ili bismo to ipak nazvali bolešću, ovisnošću, traženjem sebe u izvanjskom, kreiranje lažne stvarnosti - jednako putem supstanci kao i upotrebnim predmetima? Onaj kojem nešto nedostaje u emocionalnom smislu, taj to nadoknađuje ili uzimanjem raznih narkotika, pretrpavanjem hranom ili konzumerizmom. Višak vrijednosti je posljedica kapitalističkog svjetonazora a vidimo dokle nas je taj doveo. Ako si gledao Bogovi su pali na tjeme, onda ti je tamo sve lijepo prikazano. Flaša kokakole ...

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Jesam, ja ne znam kako da ti kažem neke stvari a da te ne povrijedim.

Ti vlasnici nisu gurali nasilno u mačku hranu samo da bi se slikali!?
Ako mačka jeste čista priroda onda bi ona jela samo onoliko koliko joj treba?
Naprosto argumentiraj - to nema nikakve veze sa mnom niti s povrijeđivanjem. Ako u nedostatku argumenata posegneš za uvredama ili grubim rječnikom onda je i to sasvim jasan odgovor i prije svega znak tvoje nemoći.

Ti i takvi vlasnici su za mačku kreirali nezdrave uvjete uslijed kojih je postala takva proždrljiva - smanjeno kretanje, život u zatočeništvu, preobilna ili pogrešna vrsta prehrane. Mačka nema svijest o svom zdravlju niti u zatočeništvu može birati što će jesti, prema tome: slušati svoje instinke ... jel tebi treba sve crtati?

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Ako ti je priroda uzor onda bi trebala biti sasvim ok sa lukavom igrom hijena koje satima muče lava koji će biti živ pojeden.
Pa ja i jesam sasvim ok s time. Bez obzira što to jest mučan čin. Do jučer je taj lav na isti način mrcvario gnuove, antilope i sl. nevina stvorenja. Sve dođe na naplatu, kad-tad. Strašno je, okrutno i voljela bih da nije tako, ali sam s tim ok. Ali to je nešto što ti očigledno ne možeš razdvojiti pa onda ne možeš ni razumjeti.


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