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Nepročitano 13-10-10, 12:11   #1
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Naišla sam na predivnu stranicu o peludi.
Nadam se da će vam se svidjeti.

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Jao i ja sam skoro naišla na ovu stranicu, jaaako je dobra! Inače počela sam pre 2 meseca da koristim pelud, prvih par puta ga nisam koristila ispravno i onda mi je jedan pčelar objasnio sve lepo. Uveče stavim kašiku pelidi u granulama u čašu mlake vode, i ujutru dodam malo meda i oko 30 kapi propolisa. Kažu da je takav napitak najdelotvorniji.
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zasto polen a ne maticna mlijec??? ili u kojim situacijama jedno a u kojim drugo je bolja opcija??
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nebi vam preporučio korištenje peludi jer pelud se skuplja sa cvjetova. A kako je kod nas poljoprivreda u rasulu i nitko ne nadzire ništa i nikog nije briga ništa onda se sprica s razno raznim otrovima i u bilo koje vrijeme i po bilo kakvom vremenu i u vrijeme cvatnje...

Drugim rijecima, pcele donose otrovnu pelud, one je prerade i uginu jer moraju ukoniti otrove iz peludi. Prerade je jer nezele svoje mlade hraniti otrovom. A kako se pelud sluplja na ulazu u kosnicu, tako da pelud s pcelinjih nogica padne u kosaru, onda ta pelud nije preradjena od strane pcela i otrovna je.

Naravno nije sva pelud otrovna, ali kako ti mozes znati gdje je pcela pokupila pelud? Dali je taj cvijet bio sprican ili ne? S jako puno truda mozda bi se mogla ograniciti sansa za otrovnu pelud, ali koliko pcelara poznajes da se brine o tome?
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Ma tko šprica ičime po livadama i šumama? Naše je podneblje još uvijek relativno čisto i nezagađeno. Jedino je opasno ako su pčelinjaci u blizini nasada kukuruza jer oni već sadrže nikotinamide u sebi (masovno su hibridi i GMO) - tako da pčelinjak treba biti min. 2 kn udaljenosti.

No, pčelari na području dalmacije, gdje nema kukuruza niti drugih nasada su prilično čisti i ekološki.


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A masline se ne špricaju?

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A masline se ne špricaju?

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Mislim da pod normalno ne, ali ove godine su ih masovno tretirali zbog iznimno velike količine vlage zbog koje su ih napali štetnici.


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Da, ali masline mozes oprati. Kako ces pelud oprat? pcele rijetko idu na livadni cvijet. Sve vise je monokultura i one se orijentiraju an njih. U proljece na repicu, u ljeti na Bagrem (nema peluda) i pod kraj ljeta na suncokret.

Slazem se da se u dalmaciji u krsu nekom gdje na oko 3 kilometara nema nikakve proizvodnje, jabuka ili bilo ceg drugog sto se sprica se moze naci. Ali ostatk Hrvatske mislim da ima toksicnu pelud.

Ja ne govorim o tome da ste vi vas vrcek pospricali ili ste jabuke pospricali pa je to sad stetno, da to je stetno ali dobar dio toga se opere, dok kod peludi vi ne operete nista i jedete potpune pesticide ili sta ja vec nezna,. Isto vrijedi ako je pcelinjak blizu autocesta, industrija ili cega sve ne... takodjer moze biti pelud otrovana teskim metalima.

Razlog ovom je sve vece izumiranje pcela od pesticida. Trovanja se desavaju non stop. I to je pokazatelj da s peludom nesto ne valja.

Dali se vi zelite kockati s time dali je pelud otrovna ili ne je vas izbor...
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Pcele su drustveni kukci a iza te isprazne fraze "krije" se nevjerojatno suptilan i organiziran superorganizam koji nikakvom ljudskom logikom ne moze biti sveden u nase poimanje funkcioniranja uma i tijela.
Upravo su drustveni kukci jako dobar primjer funkcioniranja matrice/kolektivnog znanja - smjestenog izvan "tijela".
Ako se u skladu sa temom osvrnemo na problematiku peluda i ev. toksikacije peludi pesticidima,industrijskim zagadjenjem....moramo se i u ovom slucaju frapirati sposobnoscu superorganizma da u najkracem roku determiniraju, eliminiraju i preveniraju mogucnost trovanja svojeg podmlatka (pcelinjeg legla).
Prvi i najgrublji filter je na samom pasistu gdje pcele sakupljacice bivaju otrovane "na licu mjesta" i tako niti ne dodju natrag do svoje kosnice.
Sljedeci "filter" je cinjenica da pcela umrla od otrovanja odmah u prirodi nije zbog toga u kosnicu donijela informaciju o postojanju te (otrovne) pase pa nove pcele samim time neidu ciljano na otrovano mjesto.
Finiji filter je u funkciji kada neki pesticid ima prolongirano djelovanje pa se njegova toksicnost primjeti tek u kosnici. Pcele tada propolisom zapecate stanice sa toksicnim peludom a "alarmnim"plesom obavjestavaju sakupljacice da je pelud sakupljen sa odredjene biljke - otrovan.

Pcele su u danasnjem obliku i organizaciji na Zemlji 80 milijuna godina. Nemozemo niti zamisliti koliko katastrofa , ledenih doba, super erupcija vulkana, udara asteroida,.... su ti "obicni" kukci prozivjeli i nadzivjeli....

Opet se moram osvrnuti na elementarnu cinjenicu- ekoloski certificirani pcelinjak/pcelar je najveca garancija da je i pelud sa tog pcelinjaka cista od rezidua.
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