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Nepročitano 29-01-15, 11:42   #61
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Dzesi je pas,postavljala sam slike pa sam mislila da znate svi..moja greska..Hvala na odgovoru ,cekacu da vidim jos neko iskustvo,pa cu da primenim mere u skladu s onim sto ste mi posavetovali..
Ako možeš, odgovori još i na moja podpitanja ... i daj sve detalje kojih se sjetiš.

Moguća je još jedna stvar a to su analne žlijezde. Da li je vet provjerio jesu li pune ili upaljene?

Inače, problemi s analkama su isto posljedica precjepljenosti, znači autoimunosti, i zatrovanosti organizma. U zdravih pasa jakog imuniteta analke bi trebale biti intaktne i zdrave osim ako postoji urođena fizička deformacija kanalića da se ne mogu prazniti spontano prilikom defekacije.


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Posude za hranu su od keramike i od rostfraja, a sto se tice hrane uglavnom joj kuvam piletinu ili junetinu sa sargarepicom i pirincem, a ponekada dobije i neku kuvanu junecu kosku za glockanje. Analne zlezde su u redu, a sto se tice vakcinacije dobija one koje sam po zakonu obavezna da joj dam. Naravno, nije sterlisana. Mozes li da mi preporucis nesto od prirodnih stvari za zastitu od parazita i povecanje imuniteta kod moje Dzesi?
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Posude za hranu su od keramike i od rostfraja, a sto se tice hrane uglavnom joj kuvam piletinu ili junetinu sa sargarepicom i pirincem, a ponekada dobije i neku kuvanu junecu kosku za glockanje. Analne zlezde su u redu, a sto se tice vakcinacije dobija one koje sam po zakonu obavezna da joj dam. Naravno, nije sterlisana. Mozes li da mi preporucis nesto od prirodnih stvari za zastitu od parazita i povecanje imuniteta kod moje Dzesi?
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Posude za hranu su od keramike i od rostfraja, a sto se tice hrane uglavnom joj kuvam piletinu ili junetinu sa sargarepicom i pirincem, a ponekada dobije i neku kuvanu junecu kosku za glockanje. Analne zlezde su u redu, a sto se tice vakcinacije dobija one koje sam po zakonu obavezna da joj dam. Naravno, nije sterlisana. Mozes li da mi preporucis nesto od prirodnih stvari za zastitu od parazita i povecanje imuniteta kod moje Dzesi?
Kod nas je samo bjesnoća zakonska obveza. Da li vi imate i drugih obveznih cjepiva?

No, zakon ili ne - ono što je zakonito nije uvijek i ono što je dobro, tako da je meni uvijek prvi interes zaštita zdravlja, života i dobrobiti. To je moj vrhovni zakon nad zakonima. I to je ujedno i božji zakon a i medicina se rukovodi onom: ako ništa drugo a ono barem ne čini zlo (ili bi tako trebalo biti).

Analke je vet sada prekontrolirao?

Vidim da jede zdravo i sve drugo je pravilno, pa onda to možemo isključiti.

Parazita i nametnika ima puno, neki se ne vide golim okom nego treba uzeti strugotinu, moguće da je gljivica npr. mikrospora ili nešto slično. Da li je očišćena od endoparazita?

Ako pas živi u stanu (pretpostavljam da je to slučaj kod tvoje kuje), onda je dovoljno povremeno pošpricati krzno sa smjesom vode, eteričnog ulja lavande, limunske trave i eukaliptusa a odličan je i cedar. Samo pazi da ulja budu čista i prava za humanu uporabu na koži a ne ona za lampice koja se prodaju posvuda jer je to uglavnom čista kemija. Odličan je i prah neema s kojim se može poprašiti krzno i čajevac (ali ne izravno na kožu).

Odličan vitaminski preparat koji dajem svojima 2 x godišnje su Pfizerove VMP - tablete. Vidi se rezultat gotovo istočasno. Ne znam da li toga ima kod vas.

http://www.pet-centar.hr/detalji_pro...sa-50-kom.aspx

No, ja mislim da mora biti neki izravan uzrok tom češanju koji treba pronaći.


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Hvala ti Jesam na iscrpnom odgovoru..bice mi od koristi.Moram to dobro prouciti,ima toga dosta.
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Naravno, nije sterlisana.[/b]
Nisam shvatila ovo - naravno.

Da li je ona uzgojni primjerak neke pasmine?

Nisi napisala koliko je stara, pa vodi računa o tome da kuje koje se redovno tjeraju a ne spare se i ne produciraju potomstvo, mogu oboljeti od pyometre - teške gnojne upale maternice koja dovodi do septičnih stanja pa i uginuća. To se dogodilo mojoj maltezerici, iako je imala dva legla ali je kasnije više nisam parila.

Tada nisam bila dovoljno informirana i žao mi je što sam joj svojim neznanjem ugrozila život i priuštila veliku patnju. Danas sam pametnija.

Životinja nije čovjek i ima svoje biološke zakonitosti o kojima treba voditi računa.


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Dzesi je maltezerica sa pedigreom,znaci cista predstavnica svoje rase.Ima dve i po godine i zato sam napisala ono "naravno nije sterilisana". Jos se nije parila.Mislim da i nece,jer razmisljam o sterilizaciji na prolece.U svakom slucaju sutra kontrola kod Veta,pa cemo videti sta dalje.Hvala ti Jesam na pomoci,a ja cu da javim sta je bilo kod Veta,i kako se stvari sa Dzesi razvijaju..Pozz
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Kod nas je samo bjesnoća zakonska obveza. Da li vi imate i drugih obveznih cjepiva?
Ma daj?!

A ja uporno smišljam kako zaobići zakon...

Znači samo je za bjesnoću obavezno?

Ti svoje ni protiv nje ne cijepiš? Ili?


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Ma daj?!

A ja uporno smišljam kako zaobići zakon...

Znači samo je za bjesnoću obavezno?

Ti svoje ni protiv nje ne cijepiš? Ili?
Pssst! Ne cijepim uopće. Nek me tuže.
Teška je borba za istinu. Šansa da dobiju bjesnoću je manja nego da je ja dobijem.

Kad društvo bude vršilo cijepljenje lisica, mačaka, kuna i lasica i kad mi netko objasni zbog čega moram cijepiti svog psa koji je pod kontrolom, koji se nikad ne kreće slobodno bez mog nadzora, koji ima snažan imunitet, koji boravi u dobro ograđenom dvorištu ... i kada država i nadležne institucije povedu računa o tome da nema niti jedan pas ili mačka lutalica niti bilo koje živo biće koje se kreće slobodno a da može prenijeti bjesnoću ... onda ću možda razmisliti o tome (iako je onda tek nepotrebno).

Ako je to tako neopasno, zašto se onda svi ljudi u ruralnim područjima ne trebaju cijepiti? Zašto se npr. svi lovci ne bi cijepili ... ili svi veterinari?

I još nešto ... ako je stvarno takva epidemija bjesnoće - kako to da uopće još ima živih lisica, lasica, slobodnoživućih pasa i mačaka ... kako već svi nisu poumirali?

Pa ja živim kraj šume - zar nisam i ja rizična?

Gdje će npr. Polina Džesi dobiti bjesnoću? Doma na kauču???

Dajte najde ljudovi pušiti te gluposti! Vrijeme je da i mi pokažemo zube, da pokažemo da imamo mozga i da znamo logično razmišljati.

Cjepivo protiv bjesnoće je užasno agresivno. Znam jer mi je vet kućni prijatelj pa imam dosta insajderskih informacija.

Dosta je bilo plašenja baucima.

Odgovornost - DA!

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I još samo da dodam: imam zaista velik uzorak životinja na kojima sam mogla vidjeti promjenu otkako ih ne cijepim.

Prije su stalno bili boležljivi, te im je ovo te im je ono - svako malo kod veterinara na antibiotik, pa ima sraćku nepoznate etiologije, pa imaju alergije, te se češu te im dlaka opada ... pa analke vječno pune i upaljene - ma sto čuda! I psi i mačke jednako. A reakcije nakon svakog cjepiva - bolesni, potuljeni bar dva tjedna. Kad mi je kuja dobila akutnu upalu gušterače nakon cjepiva - prosvijetlilo mi se i tu sam pukla!

Otkako ih ne cijepim nisam vidjela veta godinama. Doslovno! I sad ti je jasno zašto cijepiti?
Ne za dobrobit životinje - nego za dobrobit blagajne i džepa veterinara.

I jednako tako i moja sestra koja trenutno ima 14 životinja, što pasa, što mačaka.

Sve što vrijedi za čovjeka vrijedi i za psa ili mačku - ako ne biste cijepili sebe ili svoje dijete, onda nemojte ni životinju.


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