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Nepročitano 20-06-13, 20:36   #1
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Zadani Beskraj negira Boga!?

Ako pretpostavimo da postoji beskraj, onda možemo pretpostaviti da je sve moguće. Kao što na mikro razini nasumičnim bacanjem kocke od ponuđenih 6 brojeva, kad tad ćeš dobiti svih šest tako i u ponudi beskrajnih kombinacija u beskrajnom vremenu sve su kombinacije izvjesne. Pitanje je samo vremena.

Matematičari imaju formulu po kojoj dolaze do takvog zaključka.
Radi se o Infinite Monkey Theorem gdje su simbolično "stavili" majmuna za pisaću mašinu koji beskonačno nasumično lupa po njoj da bi s vremenom slučajno ispisao kompletna djela od Shakespear-a.

Tu tezu su htjeli provjerit na način da su dali kompjuteru nasumično generiranje slova. Nakon nekog vremena je kompjuter pomalo slagao (specifične) nizove riječi iz Shakespear-ovih djela.
Problem je što nam je tehnologija preslaba da bi taj kompjuter zaista bio sposoban obraditi dovoljan broj kombinacija kako bi u razumnom periodu mogao na takav način (nasumično) izbaciti čitavo Shakespearovo djelo ali već sama indicija da se iz nasumičnog rađa (kompleksna) smisao je fascinantna.

Edit: Što će nam onda bog ako beskraj sama po sebi može i čini sve?

Ako bi se takva hipoteza uzela u obzir, život na Zemlji je mogao nastat kao posljedica beskrajnih nasumičnih kombinacija kojima je posljedica bila jednostanični organizam.
Takva hipoteza ne implicira samo nastanak života već i "čuda" koja se pripisuju božjim djelovanjem.

Zanimljivo, zar ne?


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ako beskraj negira boga, onda mora da ga kraj potvrdjuje..


ili ili poljane.. osuncane beskrajom..


Uistinu, Bog je tako ljubio svijet te je dao svoga Sina Jedinorođenca da nijedan koji u njega vjeruje ne propadne, nego da ima život vječni.
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da.zanimljivo..sve je tako inteligentno na svoj bozanski nacin..
Pitam se oce li ikad ona kockica sa sest mogucnosti kad je bacimo pokazat istovremeno svih sest brojeva,?
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ako beskraj negira boga, onda mora da ga kraj potvrdjuje..


ili ili poljane.. osuncane beskrajom..
Kako si došao do kraja u beskraju?


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da.zanimljivo..sve je tako inteligentno na svoj bozanski nacin..
Pitam se oce li ikad ona kockica sa sest mogucnosti kad je bacimo pokazat istovremeno svih sest brojeva,?

Ako uzmeš magnet i približiš ga željeznim objektima, privući će ih.
Jel se radilo o romantičnoj priči između njih?

Magnet je privukao samo te objekte. Da li se radi o bogu?


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Kako si došao do kraja u beskraju?
Mudro mudro!

Naravno,ovo nema veze s mojim stavom o Bogu.


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Mudro mudro!

Naravno,ovo nema veze s mojim stavom o Bogu.
Šteta što mudro nema veze sa tvojim stavom o bogu.


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Šteta što mudro nema veze sa tvojim stavom o bogu.
He he...osvrt na logiku one tvoje gore zamjedbe nema veze s mojim stavom o bogu.


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He he...osvrt na logiku one tvoje gore zamjedbe nema veze s mojim stavom o bogu.
Nije potrebno ništa više nego otvorit se i promislit. Ako nešto nije na mjestu, obrazložit to.


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Ako uzmeš magnet i približiš ga željeznim objektima, privući će ih.
Jel se radilo o romantičnoj priči između njih?

Magnet je privukao samo te objekte. Da li se radi o bogu?


opet kazem- sve je tako inteligentno na bozji nacin.
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