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Nepročitano 29-04-15, 16:21   #31
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Ne traži raj ni pakao u budućnosti.
Oni su ovdje i sada.
Ako možeš voljeti nekog bez očekivanja,
bez računice - ti si u raju.
Ako si u svađi i mržnji - u paklu si.

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Ne traži raj ni pakao u budućnosti.
Oni su ovdje i sada.
Ako možeš voljeti nekog bez očekivanja,
bez računice - ti si u raju.
Ako si u svađi i mržnji - u paklu si.

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Nemaš ti pojma gdje si kad nekog voliš.
Tema govori o nekome tko je bio u Raju i nije mu se svidjelo.
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Lucifer je bio anđeo u Kraljevstvu Nebeskom, obasjan beskrajnom božjom ljubavi.
U jednom trenutku postaje nezadovoljan i odluči se suprostaviti Bogu.

1.Da bi se razumijelo priču prvo treba razumijeti što je Raj.
Raj je prije svega stanje sreće i zadovoljstva. Svaki vjernik želi biti sretan i zadovoljan u zagrobnom životu.
Kako je Lucifer u božjem svijetu sreće i zadovoljstva mogao biti nezadovoljan? Zar zadovoljstvo ne bi trebalo biti neupitno kad si u Kraljevstvu Nebeskom!?
Ako postoji mogućnost nezadovoljstva, onda Raj nije bitno drugačiji od života negdje drugdje.

2. Zamisli sad situaciju da imaš Oca koji je svemoćan, zna sve što si napravio, što radiš i što ćeš učiniti, stvorio je sve i odlučuje o životu i smrti.
Zamisli sad stvarnost situacije da usred Nirvane odlučuješ primiti svemoćnog Oca za vrat koji je o tome znao prije nego si i nastao.
Ne znam kako tebi ali meni ovo nema nikakvog smisla.

3. Slobodna volja.
Može se čuti da je zbog dozvoljene slobodne volje Luciferu omogućeno odvajanje od Boga. Ali to još dalje odvodi priču u apsurd.
Sloboda volje se povlači onda kada je ugrožena. Svjetlo prepoznajemo po tami.
Je li moguć Raj i sloboda izbora? Između čega trebaš birati?
Ako mogu birati u Raju onda to nije krajnja destinacija.
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Nemaš ti pojma gdje si kad nekog voliš.
Tema govori o nekome tko je bio u Raju i nije mu se svidjelo.
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Tema govori o nekome tko je bio u Raju i nije mu se svidjelo.
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