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Je si li mislila o tome da možda postoji neki astrološki razlog zbog kojeg ti je univerzum dao mogučnost te spoznaje nakon toliko vremena ?
Moguće ... ali ja kad zatražim rješenje i kad sam ga spremna čuti, onda mi ono dođe. Navikla sam manifestirati.

A astrološki sam Bik pa sam uporna ko smrt.

No, astrološka konstelacija je trenutno izuzetno dobra za napredak i spoznaju za one koji su spremni.


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Nova znanstvena spoznaja koja se sve više širi. Moram priznati da sam bila jaaaako u krivu. Prije skoro godinu dana prešla sam na isključivo mesnu prehranu - tzv. ketogena prehrana s povremenim gladovanjem (tzv. Intermittent fasting 18-6), znači, meso, jaja u velikim količinama, čvarci, maslo i druge zdrave zasićene masnoće poput svinjske masti, goveđeg loja, kokosovo, maslinovo i bučino ulje i svega 10% zelenog povrća i salate. Ništa ugljikohidrata, škroba i šećera (osim naravno koliko minimalno to malo povrća sadrži).

Izliječila sam hrpu problema, visok tlak, inzulinsku rezistenciju, hašimoto, skinula 8 kg viška kojih se nikako nisam mogla riješiti, dovela se u vrhunsku tjelesnu kondiciju, ojačala muskulaturu, popravila probavu, nestali bolovi u zglobovima i općenito bolovi u tijelu ... naprosto sam oduševljena.

Eto što propaganda čini da uvjerava tolike ljude da je veganstvo rješenje za većinu problema, kako zdravstvenih, tako okolišnih.

Sve objašnjeno u videu.


O, ne, ketogena djeta! Zar i ti sine brute? Sad mi još samo reci da pratiš kanal Samo Masno Meso pa ću da svisnem 😊


Lijepo je da si bolje. Tebi kao jednoj izuzetno pametnoj ženi mora biti jasno da vlastita uvjerenja čine čuda našim tijelima.
Doslovno, ako vjerujemo sa nas jedenje čokoladnih tortica može izliječiti, izljecit ce nas. Ima toliko znanstvenih dokaza placebo efekta da nema smisla išta više o prehrani govoriti.

Jednostavno je- jedemo iz uvjerenja, i ta uvjerenja nas liječe ili čine bolesnima. Moje uvjerenje je da su biljke moja najbolja hrana i 6 godina već živim my best life nakon svih bitki sa hormonima, cistama, aknama, anksioznošću, mentalnom maglom, umorom. Moja energija i snaga nije ni u jednom trenutku pala, dapače, i muz i ja smo još uvijek najbrži u planinarenju 😉 čak i kad nemamo neke kondicije, imunitet, kosa prekrasna i sjajna, nikad ovoliko dugu kosu nisam imala. U zubara idem samo na kontrole, dok sam ranije bila stalno. Sve me bolesti zaobilaze iako sam u žiži klica i virusa. Kucam o drvo, zaista!

Osim toga, najvažnije, osjećam kako se moj duh pročistio, lakša sam, poletna, bistrija.

Niti jedna prehrana, bila mesna ili biljna, neće pomoći ako imamo neki duboki problem koji se manifestira našim zdravstvenim problemima. Rješavati se treba to, imati duhovnu dijetu, paziti šta gledamo, čitamo, slušamo, kako pričamo... Kakve su nam riječi. One su odraz duha. Iscjeliti naše emotivno tijelo i otvoriti srce, otvoriti se životu.

Drago mi je da si bolje, i nemoj mi pljuvati veganstvo. Nije ono krivo što ti nije pomoglo.


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O, ne, ketogena djeta! Zar i ti sine brute? Sad mi još samo reci da pratiš kanal Samo Masno Meso pa ću da svisnem ��
Ne znam tko su ti. Pratim rad triju američkih liječnika, proučavam fiziologiju, metabolizam i biokemiju, kao i iskustva gomile ljudi koji su se spasili pomoću ketogene prehrane. To nije nikakva dijeta nego način prehrane, nema ograničenja količine - dijeta podrazumijeva uvijek neko uskraćivanje, smanjivanje, ograničavanje - najčešće kalorijsko.

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OLijepo je da si bolje. Tebi kao jednoj izuzetno pametnoj ženi mora biti jasno da vlastita uvjerenja čine čuda našim tijelima.
Doslovno, ako vjerujemo sa nas jedenje čokoladnih tortica može izliječiti, izljecit ce nas. Ima toliko znanstvenih dokaza placebo efekta da nema smisla išta više o prehrani govoriti.
Pozivam sve koji tako misle da se jave, pa ćemo odmah vidjeti djeluje li tu placebo. Oni nek jedu tortice a ja ću meso. Nakon godine dana ćemo napraviti sve krvne i druge relevantne pretrage. Ako dotični još budu živi do tada.

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Jednostavno je- jedemo iz uvjerenja, i ta uvjerenja nas liječe ili čine bolesnima. Moje uvjerenje je da su biljke moja najbolja hrana i 6 godina već živim my best life nakon svih bitki sa hormonima, cistama, aknama, anksioznošću, mentalnom maglom, umorom. Moja energija i snaga nije ni u jednom trenutku pala, dapače, i muz i ja smo još uvijek najbrži u planinarenju �� čak i kad nemamo neke kondicije, imunitet, kosa prekrasna i sjajna, nikad ovoliko dugu kosu nisam imala. U zubara idem samo na kontrole, dok sam ranije bila stalno. Sve me bolesti zaobilaze iako sam u žiži klica i virusa. Kucam o drvo, zaista!
Ja jedem zato jer moram - iz nikakvog uvjerenja. Da ne moram, ne bih, jer mi je jedenje čisti gubitak vremena u životu. I oduvijek je tako bilo.

Nadalje, mesna prehrana uopće nije u skladu s mojim moralnim načelima, dakle - daleko je od onog što bih ja preferirala. I usprkos etičkoj dilemi (dakle, podsvjesnom otporu), dokazano mi čini dobro, što pokazuju svi nalazi a i moj izgled i kondicija.

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Osim toga, najvažnije, osjećam kako se moj duh pročistio, lakša sam, poletna, bistrija.

Niti jedna prehrana, bila mesna ili biljna, neće pomoći ako imamo neki duboki problem koji se manifestira našim zdravstvenim problemima. Rješavati se treba to, imati duhovnu dijetu, paziti šta gledamo, čitamo, slušamo, kako pričamo... Kakve su nam riječi. One su odraz duha. Iscjeliti naše emotivno tijelo i otvoriti srce, otvoriti se životu.
Ovo su ipak samo New Age bajke. Ja nemam nikakvih emocionalnih niti drugih problema u životu. Sretna sam i zadovoljna u svim segmentima, a sad sam i lakša i poletnija otkako sam prešla na keto. Dakle, ništa se drugo nije promijenilo u mom životu osim prehrane. Ja se osjećam poletnija, lakša i daleko, daleko bistrija na mesu jer mozak treba ketone za optimalno funkcioniranje.

Istu situacije pratim kod svoje prijateljice i sestre. Obje su procvale i zdravstveno i psihički.

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Drago mi je da si bolje, i nemoj mi pljuvati veganstvo. Nije ono krivo što ti nije pomoglo.
Nego što je krivo, nego veganstvo. Pa od njega sam se i razboljela.
Ako pogledaš video, shvatit ćeš možda i zašto.

Moguće da ima ljudi koji mogu tako živjeti, ali definitivno ima nas kojima je meso jedina opcija za zdravlje.

Drago mi je da tebi vege odgovara, samo pazi na dugoročne posljedice koje se ne vide odmah. Ne zaboravi da se meni zdravlje tiho urušavalo tijekom 30 godina. Ne vidi se sve odmah a kad se jednom uruši, onda ti treba jako puno vremena da popraviš, ako je uopće moguće i ako si spreman mijenjati navike.


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Jedan od komentara ispod videa:

I was vegatarian for ten years,and then turned vegan for 3 years. I had migraines,brain fog,joint and muscle pain and acid reflux. Looking for answers to my symtoms I found and a youtube channel talking about Oxalates poisoning from plants and I had all the symtoms. I gave up plants 3 years ago and am enjoying good health again with meat,eggs,butter,water as my only foods.

Moguće je, kako neki tvrde, da nulta krvna grupa mora jesti meso, međutim moja sestra je B a nećak je AB i on si je debelo uništio zdravlje s veganstvom - mlad čovjek a raspada se. I ne da se krstiti.


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Znaš da me nema često na forumima, velikim dijelom što sam s godinama izgubila apsolutno želju da nekome nešto argumentiram ili dokazujem. Za mene je to potpuno besmisleno.

Tako da neću secirati ništa od tvojih upisa. Jasno ti je da bi ti ja mogla zaljepiti ovdje jednako toliko videa i iskustava koji govore drugačije. I šta cu dobiti s tim? Ništa.


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Znaš da me nema često na forumima, velikim dijelom što sam s godinama izgubila apsolutno želju da nekome nešto argumentiram ili dokazujem. Za mene je to potpuno besmisleno.

Tako da neću secirati ništa od tvojih upisa. Jasno ti je da bi ti ja mogla zaljepiti ovdje jednako toliko videa i iskustava koji govore drugačije. I šta cu dobiti s tim? Ništa.
Svakom po volji. Zato dajem informacije a svatko nek za sebe odluči što će.

Ja se niti nisam imala namjere raspravljati, samo staviti video za one koje zanima.


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Ministarstvo obrane SAD-a uložit će ogromna sredstva u studiju o dobrobitima ketogene prehrane, ne bi li na taj način utjecali na sve lošije zdravlje regruta/vojnika.


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